[chris4prez]

Sorry for the Sh*tty photos as I took them with my iphone and the lighting was iffy, but you get the general idea.



















If you have questions let me know.

[Masterplan]

@chris4prez thank you for that! Looks awesome! Is your car on standard m sport suspension or xdrive?

Also are you using the 15mm and 12mm macht schnell spacers?

[chris4prez]

@masterplan - thanks! M-sport with adaptive suspension from Dynamic handling package. Using Macht Schnell 15mm in rear and 12mm in front.

[M-terkait]

i need to space out my front tires 245/40/18 on my EC-7 18x9 ET42 my MPSS is hitting the suspension what wheel spacer you recommend for me guys? am not lowered am on stock sport suspension! thnx

[bobbydigital]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

10mm will NOT work with the f30. The oem hub lip is too long. I found out the hard way. The f30 has a longer hub lip than any previous 3 series. It won't meet the hub. Very bad.

Is this true also for F36?

I was planning on 10mm front and 12mm rear but now wondering if I need to swap my 10s for 15s and go 12mm front, 15mm rear.

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

i need to space out my front tires 245/40/18 on my EC-7 18x9 ET42 my MPSS is hitting the suspension what wheel spacer you recommend for me guys? am not lowered am on stock sport suspension! thnx

Although, with a 245/40/18 setup, you could have just as easily run the 18x8.5 ET35 EC-7s. It probably would have cleared the front suspension easily.

... not that it helps you at this point. I would imagine that if you had 10+ mm spacers on the front you would clear the suspension. Not sure if you would need to roll fenders (other side of the wheel).

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

i need to space out my front tires 245/40/18 on my EC-7 18x9 ET42 my MPSS is hitting the suspension what wheel spacer you recommend for me guys? am not lowered am on stock sport suspension! thnx

Originally Posted by Polo08816

Although, with a 245/40/18 setup, you could have just as easily run the 18x8.5 ET35 EC-7s. It probably would have cleared the front suspension easily.

... not that it helps you at this point. I would imagine that if you had 10+ mm spacers on the front you would clear the suspension. Not sure if you would need to roll fenders (other side of the wheel).

Now that I think about it....

There is an 18x9 EC-7 ET31

http://www.apexraceparts.com/apex-pr...l#.VXAh1Eavaao

There is more inner wheel clearance to the front suspension than even the ARC-8 18x8.5.

However, this seems to extend out almost 17mm more than stock. I'm wondering if this would rub the fender liner.

http://www.myapexparts.com/2013/08/0...ly-aggressive/

[jtuds]

Is the general consensus that 10mm isn't enough at the front? And that 12mm is recommended/required? Also can you seriously not track a car with spacers?

I now have Dinan springs on my car and it sits pretty low...I'm not sure if theyre stiff enough to prevent rubbing because i have not been to the track since I got the Dinan

[ronjon400]

seems to me all this guessing is just a waste of time. Go to home depot and buy a stack of washers......take off wheel......put wheel back on with 2 bolts and equal amount of washer on both bolts.....more washers less washers to find the right look. take off stack of washers and "measure" order that spacer. done.

[williammm]

Can the H&R 13mm spacer fit the rear of F30?

[E30toF30]

Originally Posted by williammm

Can the H&R 13mm spacer fit the rear of F30?

I think they should? I run 15mm on the rear with stock 20x8.5 wheels and 255 wide tires. No issues at all. I would go 15 in the back and you will have no fitment issues for sure.

I'm actually gonna go to 18mm back and 12mm front later tonight. Lol. Should be good too.

[RISEUPF30]

Originally Posted by chris4prez

Sorry for the Sh*tty photos as I took them with my iphone and the lighting was iffy, but you get the general idea.



















If you have questions let me know.

LIFESAVER!!!
Ordered these today from Burgertuning. thanks for the pics man

[E30toF30]

I was previously running 10mm front and 15mm rear Motorsport Hardware spacers. But yesterday evening I swapped them to 12mm front and 18mm rear BMS spacers. The slight increase in size does make a pretty significant difference in visual appearance. And might I add, they look absolute BADASS haha (probably not worth it to make the swap for such a minimal change, but a buddy sold his car and gave these to me so no cost)

These are on my stock 20" staggered 624M wheels.
Front: 20x8, 225/35/20
Back: 20x8.5, 255,30/20

No issues at all. No rubbing whatsoever.
I am also lowered on h&r sport springs.

[Anton_RU]

Hi guys! I was wondering, do the same principles apply to f32? I'm very happy with the way my car looks, but want a slightly wider stance, so I was thinking about putting a 10mm spacers front and rear. Don't want to make it too wide though.
Would appreciate your opinions/advices

[WP7778]

Originally Posted by ronjon400

seems to me all this guessing is just a waste of time. Go to home depot and buy a stack of washers......take off wheel......put wheel back on with 2 bolts and equal amount of washer on both bolts.....more washers less washers to find the right look. take off stack of washers and "measure" order that spacer. done.

LOL

which is why im so glad I ended up just getting rims that were already manufactured to where spacers weren't needed. one less thing to deal with!

[DrivenByE30]

Originally Posted by Anton_RU

Hi guys! I was wondering, do the same principles apply to f32? I'm very happy with the way my car looks, but want a slightly wider stance, so I was thinking about putting a 10mm spacers front and rear. Don't want to make it too wide though.
Would appreciate your opinions/advices

I really think you should go to 15/15.
I am currently on 15 front and 12 rear, but next week will switch to 15 mm in the rear.

I am on stock OEM 19 inch wheels,and the car is lower by H&R sport springs... I am very satisfied with this setup... No alignment needed...

[E30toF30]

Originally Posted by Anton_RU

Hi guys! I was wondering, do the same principles apply to f32? I'm very happy with the way my car looks, but want a slightly wider stance, so I was thinking about putting a 10mm spacers front and rear. Don't want to make it too wide though.
Would appreciate your opinions/advices

The 18/12mm rear/front setup i have came from a guy who had an f32. He was running 20" bbs ch in a staggered setup. I believe 9.5" rear and 8.5" front? Also lowered on h&r sport. He had no issues with these spacers either.

[Sleeper]

Originally Posted by E30toF30

I was previously running 10mm front and 15mm rear Motorsport Hardware spacers. But yesterday evening I swapped them to 12mm front and 18mm rear BMS spacers. The slight increase in size does make a pretty significant difference in visual appearance. And might I add, they look absolute BADASS haha (probably not worth it to make the swap for such a minimal change, but a buddy sold his car and gave these to me so no cost)

These are on my stock 20" staggered 624M wheels.
Front: 20x8, 225/35/20
Back: 20x8.5, 255,30/20

No issues at all. No rubbing whatsoever.
I am also lowered on h&r sport springs.

Any pics you could post to show this?

[Anton_RU]

Originally Posted by E30toF30

The 18/12mm rear/front setup i have came from a guy who had an f32. He was running 20" bbs ch in a staggered setup. I believe 9.5" rear and 8.5" front? Also lowered on h&r sport. He had no issues with these spacers either.

Interesting! But I think 18mm for the rear is quite a lot. I am running 19" OEM wheels, and the car is not lowered, not yet

[Anton_RU]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

I really think you should go to 15/15.
I am currently on 15 front and 12 rear, but next week will switch to 15 mm in the rear.

I am on stock OEM 19 inch wheels,and the car is lower by H&R sport springs... I am very satisfied with this setup... No alignment needed...

Thanks for the advice!
Me too, I am running 19" OEM wheels and not planning on getting the new wheels for now, but surely plan on getting the spacers and lowering the car with KW Variante 1.
Do you feel any negative change concerning the drive after the installation of the spacers? I heard it's not very good for the alignment and the tyres will use up pretty fast, not sure if that's true though

[DrivenByE30]

Originally Posted by Anton_RU

Thanks for the advice!
Me too, I am running 19" OEM wheels and not planning on getting the new wheels for now, but surely plan on getting the spacers and lowering the car with KW Variante 1.
Do you feel any negative change concerning the drive after the installation of the spacers? I heard it's not very good for the alignment and the tyres will use up pretty fast, not sure if that's true though

I had the spacers on at the same time as when the car got lowered back in May 2015.

With the H&R Sport springs, the amount lowered is not significant enough to affect the alignment. I personally have been driving the car on a daily basis to work and i like this set up so much better than the stock height. For the past 10 months or so, i have not seen the alignment being affected any differently from the first 3 years without the springs/spacers. The car should have come in this lowered and "wider" configuration from the beginning.

Dynamically, it is better.

If you really insist on aligning, i recommend you do not do it right away. Let the spring settle in first for at least 1 or even 2 months.
I have been keeping a close look at it since the change, because the shop is willing and ready to align my car if necessary, after the settling period.

In my case, i did not get the car aligned since the new lower springs, and i even think it is better that way, because the alignment is still "stock".
If i ever decide to put back the OEM springs, there would be no need to adjust back and forth the alignment.

As for the tire wear, i also have been keeping an even closer watch.
I had all the tires filled up at the exact pressure when the tires were still cold and not driven! (to the 10th decimal) and i look at it on a daily basis, as well as while driving through the TPMS #.

I drive my car rather aggressively and all four tires wear evenly and nothing abnormal from the way they were wearing before the new springs. (I drove the car for 3 years on stock height).

The only case where the spacers would affect tire wear negatively is when it is combined with an excessive negative camber suspension setup, which is not applicable for us.

In conclusion, i personally think you do not have to worry about these things.
Alignment ? >> NO
uneven or excessive Tire wear ? >> NO
negative dynamic change ? >> NO

Make sure to have the longer bolts when you add the spacers

Enjoy the photos i just took about a hour ago:

This is after 10 months of driving with the springs and spacers (i bought 4 new tires at the same time too):










Again, this is 15 mm FRONT, and 12 mm REAR.

Next weekend, i will be swapping the Rear spacers for 15 mm.
I will post the photos then to give you show you the slight difference. It will be even better i think.

For now, just imagine the wheels pushed out 3mm more... which is really nothing i think. I am looking forward to it.


As for lowering it, here is the
BEFORE:


AFTER:

[Anton_RU]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

I had the spacers on at the same time as when the car got lowered back in May 2015.

With the H&R Sport springs, the amount lowered is not significant enough to affect the alignment. I personally have been driving the car on a daily basis to work and i like this set up so much better than the stock height. For the past 10 months or so, i have not seen the alignment being affected any differently from the first 3 years without the springs/spacers. The car should have come in this lowered and "wider" configuration from the beginning.

Dynamically, it is better.

If you really insist on aligning, i recommend you do not do it right away. Let the spring settle in first for at least 1 or even 2 months.
I have been keeping a close look at it since the change, because the shop is willing and ready to align my car if necessary, after the settling period.

In my case, i did not get the car aligned since the new lower springs, and i even think it is better that way, because the alignment is still "stock".
If i ever decide to put back the OEM springs, there would be no need to adjust back and forth the alignment.

As for the tire wear, i also have been keeping an even closer watch.
I had all the tires filled up at the exact pressure when the tires were still cold and not driven! (to the 10th decimal) and i look at it on a daily basis, as well as while driving through the TPMS #.

I drive my car rather aggressively and all four tires wear evenly and nothing abnormal from the way they were wearing before the new springs. (I drove the car for 3 years on stock height).

The only case where the spacers would affect tire wear negatively is when it is combined with an excessive negative camber suspension setup, which is not applicable for us.

In conclusion, i personally think you do not have to worry about these things.
Alignment ? >> NO
uneven or excessive Tire wear ? >> NO
negative dynamic change ? >> NO

Make sure to have the longer bolts when you add the spacers

Enjoy the photos i just took about a hour ago:

This is after 10 months of driving with the springs and spacers (i bought 4 new tires at the same time too):










Again, this is 15 mm FRONT, and 12 mm REAR.

Next weekend, i will be swapping the Rear spacers for 15 mm.
I will post the photos then to give you show you the slight difference. It will be even better i think.

For now, just imagine the wheels pushed out 3mm more... which is really nothing i think. I am looking forward to it.


As for lowering it, here is the
BEFORE:


AFTER:

Wow, thanks for such a detailed advice and pictures!
I am definitely considering both spacers and lowering, for sure. However, I was planning to put coil overs instead of springs, because I travel a lot to different countries and need to have a possibility to adjust the height for traveling (for example Czech Republic, they have pretty harsh roads there).
Thanks again for the input!