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      03-18-2013, 11:59 AM   #89
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I did a stock dyno and one with catback. I hope to dyno soon with catback and stage 1 at 3 and 4psi.
Do you have a 6mt or 8at ?
Also what was your stock whp ?
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      03-18-2013, 12:04 PM   #90
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Do you have a 6mt or 8at ?
Also what was your stock whp ?
I have a 6mt.

I dynod on a load bearing Super Flo, not a Dynojet which has higher numbers.

I did 213/240tq stock and 220/260 with the catback

Add 7-10% to get an idea of Dynojet numbers.
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      03-18-2013, 12:11 PM   #91
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I have a 6mt.

I dynod on a load bearing Super Flo, not a Dynojet which has higher numbers.

I did 213/240tq stock and 220/260 with the catback

Add 7-10% to get an idea of Dynojet numbers.
Nice, i also have a 6mt .
Did you use 98ron fuel when you did
The dyno? I think it is 93AKI in the U.S.

Do you have the S1 on now? If so is it what you expected it to be ?
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Nice, i also have a 6mt .
Did you use 98ron fuel when you did
The dyno? I think it is 93AKI in the U.S.

Do you have the S1 on now? If so is it what you expected it to be ?
I had 93 octane in on the dyno.

Have S1 at 3psi, feels great, won't mind a bit mode that 4psi should offer. I run 93 anyway, might as well take advantage of the octane.
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      03-18-2013, 12:24 PM   #93
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I had 93 octane in on the dyno.

Have S1 at 3psi, feels great, won't mind a bit mode that 4psi should offer. I run 93 anyway, might as well take advantage of the octane.
What is the default psi when you install the bms S1 ?
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What is the default psi when you install the bms S1 ?
+3
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Ok, thanks for the info.
Please update us when you run on +4 psi.
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I did not adjust the boost so I guess I'm on +3psi. Please share your dyno if you have done it with +4psi.

Torque gains seems to be good but HP seems otherwise
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Anyone have the download link for the n55 software to load on the laptop to adjust for boost? I think I can get my summer wheels done on Friday!
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Default boost on stage1 out of the box is +3PSI

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Default boost on stage1 out of the box is +3PSI

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Hello Mike,
Here in Sweden we have shell v-power
98.5 ron + 5% ethanol. My question is,
Can I use shell v-power and set the boost
To +4psi stage 1 ?
I have a 6mt.
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Hello Mike,
Here in Sweden we have shell v-power
98.5 ron + 5% ethanol. My question is,
Can I use shell v-power and set the boost
To +4psi stage 1 ?
I have a 6mt.
Hell yeah, your gas is better than ours-so why not?
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In the sports meter, on my 320i goes up to 160kWand 320nM.

My car, stock, stops at 141kW (tops) and 270nM. Hopefully after installed I wanna bit those numbers.

It's a good way to see if you have a good upgrade without the dyno right?

In 328i you probably have higher maximum numbers, or doesn't?
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In the sports meter, on my 320i goes up to 160kWand 320nM.

My car, stock, stops at 141kW (tops) and 270nM. Hopefully after installed I wanna bit those numbers.

It's a good way to see if you have a good upgrade without the dyno right?

In 328i you probably have higher maximum numbers, or doesn't?
In interesting question which I also considered. If the sports meters do show the higher output of the upgrade, surely this could then be potentially logged by the car and give away the fact that it has been chipped even if the unit is removed prior to a service?
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In the sports meter, on my 320i goes up to 160kWand 320nM.

My car, stock, stops at 141kW (tops) and 270nM. Hopefully after installed I wanna bit those numbers.

It's a good way to see if you have a good upgrade without the dyno right?

In 328i you probably have higher maximum numbers, or doesn't?
In interesting question which I also considered. If the sports meters do show the higher output of the upgrade, surely this could then be potentially logged by the car and give away the fact that it has been chipped even if the unit is removed prior to a service?
My 328 w the tune doesn't show higher torque readings on the meter, but I can feel the difference when driving.
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Results from this tune, at this point, appear too inconsistent and subjective for my tastes - and at 18ish hp probably too small to notice - even to a well trained butt. Moreover, even the changes "under the line" don't point to more real world / usable performance. Also don't get this learning period thing - sounds like urban legend!
FYI: Some years ago I enjoyed good and bad experience chipping my Audi A4 w/2.0T. First chip promised big numbers and for the first few weeks I thought I felt something. But when others reported their disappointments, it confirmed I was fooling myself. I later replaced the chip with one from GIAC - which had years of well documented (though more modest) gains and had been fully sorted out. With this tune, the difference was very obvious and real; especially in day to day driving.

I appreciate the early adopters, and the minute I'm convinced that this or that other piggy-back with the blue light actually delivers 30+ whp and 50+ torque, and in the meat of the power range...and without surprises...my check is in the mail. Until then I gotta sit on the fence, with crossed fingers.
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My 328 w the tune doesn't show higher torque readings on the meter, but I can feel the difference when driving.
No torque difference, and the power?
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Results from this tune, at this point, appear too inconsistent and subjective for my tastes - and at 18ish hp probably too small to notice - even to a well trained butt. Moreover, even the changes "under the line" don't point to more real world / usable performance. Also don't get this learning period thing - sounds like urban legend!
FYI: Some years ago I enjoyed good and bad experience chipping my Audi A4 w/2.0T. First chip promised big numbers and for the first few weeks I thought I felt something. But when others reported their disappointments, it confirmed I was fooling myself. I later replaced the chip with one from GIAC - which had years of well documented (though more modest) gains and had been fully sorted out. With this tune, the difference was very obvious and real; especially in day to day driving.

I appreciate the early adopters, and the minute I'm convinced that this or that other piggy-back with the blue light actually delivers 30+ whp and 50+ torque, and in the meat of the power range...and without surprises...my check is in the mail. Until then I gotta sit on the fence, with crossed fingers.
[u2b], [/u2b]
After I installed my BMS Piggy Back, the difference was immediately very noticeable; to my butt and to the stopwatch. My 0-60 time dropped from 5.7 to 4.9; taken right before and right after install. My previous car was 07 GTI with an APR Stage 1, which also advertises around 30 to 40 hp increase. I think the BMS piggy back was even more pronounced than the APR Stage 1. I have no doubt it's adding at least 30 to 40 hp in my car. It does seem that the results people are having are a little inconsistent, but the majority of people seem to be very satisfied. Best option would be to try it for your self. Very easy install and I believe they offer a 14 day money back guarantee.
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My 328 w the tune doesn't show higher torque readings on the meter, but I can feel the difference when driving.
Seriously? Do you believe the sports meters? They are only a very basic guide and cannot be taken seriously. The main point is you can feel the difference and it is very noticeable.
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Seriously? Do you believe the sports meters? They are only a very basic guide and cannot be taken seriously. The main point is you can feel the difference and it is very noticeable.
The meter gets info from the standard sensors data, a piggyback might bypass that info from getting to the meter.

The meter is a silly thing anyway, I would not use it to gauge anything.
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The meter gets info from the standard sensors data, a piggyback might bypass that info from getting to the meter.

The meter is a silly thing anyway, I would not use it to gauge anything.
It's not a perfect way, of course!

Ans since piggyback bypass that, useless. However is a certain way.
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Can I run +6psi on stage 1 if I use
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