BEAST in the snow!

tristantumble · 12-17-2013, 09:17 AM

my previous car was a 128i with winter tires, and I have to say driving on the same roads, pulling out of the same snowy parking spots this year with my xdrive with winter tires is night and day. No more back and forth, i just point the wheel out of the spot and it pulls right out. I never had full confidence in my old car even with dedicated winter tires as I would still got stuck and have to shovel my way out of parking spots. So far, I am very happy with the performance of the xdrive and snow tires this season.

335BOY · 12-17-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tristantumble

my previous car was a 128i with winter tires, and I have to say driving on the same roads, pulling out of the same snowy parking spots this year with my xdrive with winter tires is night and day. No more back and forth, i just point the wheel out of the spot and it pulls right out. I never had full confidence in my old car even with dedicated winter tires as I would still got stuck and have to shovel my way out of parking spots. So far, I am very happy with the performance of the xdrive and snow tires this season.

Good call. I love reading about the guys on RWD with winters saying their car is amazing in the snow and they never get stuck. They havent tried awd with winters.

DVC · 12-17-2013, 11:51 AM

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Good call. I love reading about the guys on RWD with winters saying their car is amazing in the snow and they never get stuck. They havent tried awd with winters.

Some of us have

Ih8usrnms · 12-17-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC

Some of us have

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BavarianFanatic · 12-17-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC

Some of us have

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jtuds · 12-17-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tristantumble

my previous car was a 128i with winter tires, and I have to say driving on the same roads, pulling out of the same snowy parking spots this year with my xdrive with winter tires is night and day. No more back and forth, i just point the wheel out of the spot and it pulls right out. I never had full confidence in my old car even with dedicated winter tires as I would still got stuck and have to shovel my way out of parking spots. So far, I am very happy with the performance of the xdrive and snow tires this season.

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Originally Posted by 335BOY

Good call. I love reading about the guys on RWD with winters saying their car is amazing in the snow and they never get stuck. They havent tried awd with winters.

Whether it's me or anyone else on the thread who has said RWD with winters is all you need - I don't know that anyone is claiming they are the same. If someone is saying that, I disagree. They are not the same. AWD with snow tires will be better in the snow. In the snow…..

But, if you are a normal driver who doesn't live out in the countryside and drives primarily on city roads and highways, is it worth the $3000, added weight, higher fuel consumption, higher ride height/center of gravity, softer chassis, and reduced feel/fun factor for the few days a year that RWD may be difficult but still very doable?

shivaswrath · 12-17-2013, 10:59 PM

Been enjoying my RWD with snow tires...in snow.

Everyone here in NJ has all seasons with AWD...FAIL.

335BOY · 12-18-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

Whether it's me or anyone else on the thread who has said RWD with winters is all you need - I don't know that anyone is claiming they are the same. If someone is saying that, I disagree. They are not the same. AWD with snow tires will be better in the snow. In the snow…..

But, if you are a normal driver who doesn't live out in the countryside and drives primarily on city roads and highways, is it worth the $3000, added weight, higher fuel consumption, higher ride height/center of gravity, softer chassis, and reduced feel/fun factor for the few days a year that RWD may be difficult but still very doable?

Nobody was claiming they were the same. I agree with you. I'm in Canada...look at my sig. No x drive. Pretty brutal when we get lots of snow but that doesnt really happen a lot. Tried an x drive and it was brutal compared to the lower & firmer sport suspension e92. The one I tried had "M" package. I still remember looking at the salesman and saying something about oxymoron.

shivaswrath · 12-19-2013, 04:45 PM

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Well here in Southwestern Ontario we got nailed with an early snowstorm Saturday night, I have about 2 feet in my driveway which caused me to miss the NFL pre game and some areas around here had even more!

I was glad i had my snow tires on but still a bit worried about how my RWD would handle if I got off the beaten path and found myself on an unploughed street.

Well, yesterday on the way home form work I got impatient on the main roads and ventured tot he side streets, which were not only unploughed but had brutal piles in all the intersections, and the f30 was undeterred!

I'm not talking "I made it through" - I'm saying there was literally no question about it.I could not believe it, even the few times I had to stop at light in the deep stuff, getting going again was like it wasn't even there,

I can't help but wonder why Canadians spend the extra $3000 on xdrive.it's got to be for the peace of mind, because if you know what you're doing out there, that money would be far better spent on additional options, or just saved altogether.

The capability of this thing in the snow has now moved up probably into the top 3 things I like most about the car.

Yeah my LM60s have Carried me through the winter in the east coast so far....

jtuds · 12-19-2013, 10:04 PM

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Yeah my LM60s have Carried me through the winter in the east coast so far....

We're gonna get tested again this weekend. Apparently Texas is sending us like 3 different systems. Starting tomorrow with rain, then ice and snow through the weekend.

focal · 12-21-2013, 11:50 PM

I am consolidating two cars (545i RWD and 525xi) to one and am still a bit apprehensive committing 100% to RWD. I know from experience on the 545i, that I can live day to day with RWD, but when I knew it was going to get bad like this current storm, I'd take the AWD. If only insurance companies had a fairer rate for a single driver who owns two cars. it's just not worth paying full price to insure two cars anymore.

Geezer · 12-22-2013, 08:15 AM

Coming from multiple awd cars (Audi, Subaru) I got into Bmw exactly for the rwd driving experience. I live in the snow belt and haven't had any major issues with rwd. My only gripe is the lack of a real LSD. It would make a big difference accelerating from a dead stop which is really the only issue the car has in inclement weather.

btbossman · 12-22-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

Whether it's me or anyone else on the thread who has said RWD with winters is all you need - I don't know that anyone is claiming they are the same. If someone is saying that, I disagree. They are not the same. AWD with snow tires will be better in the snow. In the snow…..

But, if you are a normal driver who doesn't live out in the countryside and drives primarily on city roads and highways, is it worth the $3000, added weight, higher fuel consumption, higher ride height/center of gravity, softer chassis, and reduced feel/fun factor for the few days a year that RWD may be difficult but still very doable?

Also better in virtually all inclement weather conditions.

300hp · 12-22-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

Whether it's me or anyone else on the thread who has said RWD with winters is all you need - I don't know that anyone is claiming they are the same. If someone is saying that, I disagree. They are not the same. AWD with snow tires will be better in the snow. In the snow..

But, if you are a normal driver who doesn't live out in the countryside and drives primarily on city roads and highways, is it worth the $3000, added weight, higher fuel consumption, higher ride height/center of gravity, softer chassis, and reduced feel/fun factor for the few days a year that RWD may be difficult but still very doable?

Also better in virtually all inclement weather conditions.

Also better in acceleration in dry weather conditions, including rolling starts. Brakes just as well too

drob23 · 12-22-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 300hp

Also better in acceleration in dry weather conditions, including rolling starts. Brakes just as well too

Lol

Dan_335i · 12-22-2013, 11:51 AM

Just woke up to 30cm of snow

Car had no problems reversing out but goin forward is another story. Turn off trac and it was moving but barely still made it out of neighborehood

Using lm60 blizzaks

Rwd

Seagull · 12-22-2013, 03:47 PM

Wow got zero snow in midtown. Just freezing rain. Pretty boring.

Ih8usrnms · 12-22-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan_335i

Just woke up to 30cm of snow

Car had no problems reversing out but goin forward is another story. Turn off trac and it was moving but barely still made it out of neighborehood

Using lm60 blizzaks

Rwd

With RWD in snow you gotta have the traction control completely off. Thats a must if you want to get anywhere.

BavarianFanatic · 12-23-2013, 09:18 AM

Unfortunately my AWD isn't the beast I thought it would be...

drob23 · 12-23-2013, 09:53 AM

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Unfortunately my AWD isn't the beast I thought it would be...

Fail on your part, should be running 15 inch steelies with 195's on that hog.

300hp · 12-23-2013, 09:57 AM

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Unfortunately my AWD isn't the beast I thought it would be...

Shouldaboughtabugatti

12-17-2013, 09:17 AM	#243
tristantumble Private First Class 24 Rep 145 Posts Drives: '17 340xi msport 6MT, MPPk Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	my previous car was a 128i with winter tires, and I have to say driving on the same roads, pulling out of the same snowy parking spots this year with my xdrive with winter tires is night and day. No more back and forth, i just point the wheel out of the spot and it pulls right out. I never had full confidence in my old car even with dedicated winter tires as I would still got stuck and have to shovel my way out of parking spots. So far, I am very happy with the performance of the xdrive and snow tires this season.
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12-17-2013, 10:59 PM	#249
shivaswrath Brigadier General 649 Rep 4,323 Posts Drives: 2012 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lost in NJ iTrader: (3)	Been enjoying my RWD with snow tires...in snow. Everyone here in NJ has all seasons with AWD...FAIL. __________________ CURRENT: 2017 RS3 (miss you guys) SOLD: 2012 335i Mineral Gray M Performance Exhaust/Brakes/Suspension/LSD\|Bav Stage 1/AMP\|\|ER CP/IC/DP/OC \| Dinan CAI/N55 PWG BIG TURBO\|BMWF30.com
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12-21-2013, 11:50 PM	#253
focal Captain 67 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 328i 6MT w/ MPS & MPE Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	I am consolidating two cars (545i RWD and 525xi) to one and am still a bit apprehensive committing 100% to RWD. I know from experience on the 545i, that I can live day to day with RWD, but when I knew it was going to get bad like this current storm, I'd take the AWD. If only insurance companies had a fairer rate for a single driver who owns two cars. it's just not worth paying full price to insure two cars anymore.
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12-22-2013, 08:15 AM	#254
Geezer Private First Class 7 Rep 157 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York iTrader: (3)	Coming from multiple awd cars (Audi, Subaru) I got into Bmw exactly for the rwd driving experience. I live in the snow belt and haven't had any major issues with rwd. My only gripe is the lack of a real LSD. It would make a big difference accelerating from a dead stop which is really the only issue the car has in inclement weather.
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12-22-2013, 11:51 AM	#258
Dan_335i Captain 102 Rep 936 Posts Drives: 2014 335i EBII MSport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	Just woke up to 30cm of snow Car had no problems reversing out but goin forward is another story. Turn off trac and it was moving but barely still made it out of neighborehood Using lm60 blizzaks Rwd
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12-22-2013, 03:47 PM	#259
Seagull Major 289 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: F87 M2, E84 X1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Wow got zero snow in midtown. Just freezing rain. Pretty boring. __________________ Current: F87 M2 MT MPE, E84 PP SP LP Previous: F30 - 335i AT, E90 - 335xi MT, E90 - 330i MT, E46 - 330i MT
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12-23-2013, 09:18 AM	#261
BavarianFanatic Too much is never enough 655 Rep 3,079 Posts Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE PA iTrader: (0)	Unfortunately my AWD isn't the beast I thought it would be...
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