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Judging by pictures I've seen on the forum, people who opted for full merino leather, leather dashboard, and individual trim mitigate this quality issue in my opinion. I wish I had done this, these subtle changes make a huge difference, albeit at a substantial cost.
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It's a well trodden theme and I dare say I'm repeating what has been said before. I didn't buy my BMWs for the interiors, past or present. I bought them because they were and are the most enjoyable cars to drive at a price I can afford. I've owned Audis and MBs and they have had their strengths but the ones Ive owned weren't engineered for driving thrills. They got you from from A to B with the minimum of fuss - and with the minimum of engagement too. BMW has softened its approach in recent years - the E61 was the best Beemer I've owned - but has still managed to stay ahead of the competition in terms of driver appeal. Ive test driven the competition from time to time over the years and have never felt that BMWs USP has been truly threatened.
Can't comment on Jaguar however other than to say that I've never liked what they've produced in the past ten years enough to even bother with a test drive - and I'm a Brit!
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You don't have to put the word "wood" in parenthesis. BMW uses real wood on the wood pieces, just like the use real metal on metal pieces. If an item is plastic painted to look like metal or work, then BMW states that it's painted. I decided to go with the ash grain w/pearl. It's a very nice wood and nice looking grain. It would have been more functional if they offered it in a low gloss or matte "oiled" finished instead of the shinier coating it does have. The shiny coating is easily scratched even with a light cloth, and it shows up mostly on the flat area on the center console where the gear lever and idrive knob area. An oiled matte finish would looked really cool all around, for the wood. |
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I too have always liked the classy, high quality simple interiors BMW has obsessed over in comparison to the busy versions of many of their luxury competitors. At the auto show recently, I was a bit overwhelmed by all of the activity in the current Audi and Mercedes.
My only BMW complaint is that the newer gauge cluster with matte finish and lack of detail looks cheap compared to previous designs. I can't understand the use of gloss black. The C class was covered in it. I am a neat freak and it would drive me crazy. Although the gloss wood in my BMWs does require wiping, I have never had problems with scratches, and one used BMW I bought with scratches on the wood finish was easily buffed off. I also can't figure why everyone seems to think the automatic transmission selector is somehow better on the center console. I though paddle shifters would allow manufacturers to move the P,D,R N selector to a more useful position. You only interact with the selector when you start off, or are getting out. Why do you want it located in the most functional area where you could have more storage, places to keep stuff you actually use while driving. That being said, the new Audi interior earlier in this thread is certainly nicer, but still a bit busy. Last edited by metallicpea; 02-22-2016 at 03:46 PM.. |
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Call me the minority but I LOVE the interior in BMW's.
I know Audi gets a lot of praise for having wonderful interiors and I've driven an A6 and S4 and while their interiors are very nice, I just prefer the simplicity of BMW interiors. There's just not much going on there, add in the red accent lighting inside is a nice touch. It's clean, functional and doesn't overwhelm me. |
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I also point out in these threads that the automotive press doesn't seem to take issue with the F3X interior. Not that we need to think the same way they do, at all, but in a car they mostly call mediocre, they generally do not call out the interior as being anything other than premium. I think mostly the quality of the materials is fully on par with the segment, but the design is somewhat austere, and that turns some people off at the price point. You're right about the wood, but those are quotation marks. These - () - are parenthesis.
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I'm a bit at sea reading the complaints, in this thread and others, about the BMW F30 interior not being lux enough.
My 2016 340i has a very pleasing interior. I like it, it's comfortable and IMO well put together. In addition, BMW actually gives you a choice of 4 wood finishes, and a bunch of interior colors, both in SensiTec and leather. In fact, they'll actually give you a COMPLETE beige interior, carpets and all. Most others give you seats in a black interior. I got the beige ( Venetian) leather and I just love it. I guess some folks won't be happy until BMW puts a Rolls-Royce interior in a rocket sled. |
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As Emilim succinctly points out, the F30 interior is the oldest of the bunch, personally, I am not a big fan of chrome and enjoy the understated design of the F30, I think it has held up well. I think when you look at the photos of the interiors, the F30 does not look 3 - 4 years old, however the others do. I will say however that it seemed to me that the the E90 generation interior seemed to be relatively better quality in it's time. A number of factors can contribute to this. I think the biggest one is that things in memory are often remembered better than they actually were. All manufacturers, especially German manufacturers have increased the recycleability of the components used in manufacturing their products, as well as cutting weight wherever possible ton increase fuel efficiency. Lighter materials sometimes feel cheap, or flimsy. I drove the allroad before deciding on the F31, and while not a bad car, it was not as sporty feeling as the F31. The electronics in the BMW are better than the Audi and not something Mercedes is exactly known for. Overall, for me, the F31 was the best package for me. B. |
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The 3-series has never been a benchmark of interior design/quality relative to its competition, but I don't think this bothers BMW. They've apparently done the cost/benefit analysis. Last edited by the_phew; 02-23-2016 at 02:39 PM.. |
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Speaking of Tesla, the giant iPad is a let down for me. With that size of screen, innovation and technology. I'd expect it works like an iPad. Smooth and beautiful. But in reality it was lagging, sluggish, interact like the 2000s Windows Tablet.
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The LCI is a mid-cycle refresh, not a redesign. That's all it has ever been. I'll say with a high degree of confidence BMW isn't going to change now. Their competitors do the same thing.
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The new audi interior with virtual cockpit and temp gauge on the vent themselves is absolutely gorgeous. Its not like the audi interior of yesteryears where it looked like a vw inside. Also their seats are way more confortable than bmws. Having said that i think bmw has the layout right. Its mich more intuitive and ergonomical than the audi or merc and i keep coming back to bmw and their ease of use. Maybe put some less plastic and more leather and itll be better than audi and merc.
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So a gear selector shaped like and in the position of a real stick shift makes it seems sporty?
It's too far forward to rest your hand on it, that's what the arm rest is for. It just takes up space. Clearly people like it, as it still sits there in the way all the time. I just don't get how resembling sporty, makes it sporty. |
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