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      07-02-2017, 11:55 AM   #67
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Hi yes I did connect blue and green cable to rem as instructed and coded rem 3061 for led flickering
I get no lamp errors on dash, all 4 pieces of the tail lights power on but when using the turn signals I don't see the inner led working.

After adding HELC you have right click CODE on REM module ?

connect the wire of the inner light left to REM 174*12b pin17 and
and the wire of the inner light right to REM 174*14b pin12
Yes I fdl coded rem after adding HELC but that made no change. Yes I saw another post where they instead wired the inner tails to rem 174 12b pin 17 snd 174 14b pin 12 as you noted below. I know that's where the outer tails get power for turn signals. Sounds like that will be final solution. Be back with results thanks for the help
Ok guys I swapped a3 and a4 inner tail cables from rem a174 13b to a174 12b and 13b pin 12 and 17 and that solved the problem. Inner tail led now blinks along with outer piece. My lci tail retro is now complete

Good learning experience but well worth it
Just waiting for replacement drip rails as pre lci rails aren't flushed to the tail lights.
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      07-09-2017, 04:34 AM   #68
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Great job. Thanks for sharing.
Just installed it on my F30.
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      07-25-2017, 03:39 PM   #69
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Afternoon guys,

I've installed these this afternoon, but can't get inner indicators to work, I've coded

Flashing Rear:

REM 3061 FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Reverse lights:

REM 3061 RFS_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Brake lights outside:

REM / 3061 / BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Interior Brake lights:

REM / 3061 / BFD_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Rear fog lights

REM / 3061 / NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Followed BMW instructions to the letter and everything else works fine
I have installed the wire adaptor kit with wires for the inner indicators going to REM sockets 5 & 13? (on another installation guide it uses different locations in here?)
Any help would be great.

Also so should there be a brake light on the inner lamps? Many thanks
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      07-26-2017, 06:22 AM   #70
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Afternoon guys,

I've installed these this afternoon, but can't get inner indicators to work, I've coded

Flashing Rear:

REM 3061 FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Reverse lights:

REM 3061 RFS_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Brake lights outside:

REM / 3061 / BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Interior Brake lights:

REM / 3061 / BFD_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Rear fog lights

REM / 3061 / NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Followed BMW instructions to the letter and everything else works fine
I have installed the wire adaptor kit with wires for the inner indicators going to REM sockets 5 & 13? (on another installation guide it uses different locations in here?)
Any help would be great.

Also so should there be a brake light on the inner lamps? Many thanks

Hello

connect the wire of the inner light left to REM 174*12b pin17 and
and the wire of the inner light right to REM 174*14b pin12
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      07-26-2017, 06:31 AM   #71
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Hello

connect the wire of the inner light left to REM 174*12b pin17 and
and the wire of the inner light right to REM 174*14b pin12
So just to clarify, I'm moving the adaptor wiring out of REM*13B to your locations?

Many thanks
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So just to clarify, I'm moving the adaptor wiring out of REM*13B to your locations?

Many thanks
Yes exactly
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So just to clarify, I'm moving the adaptor wiring out of REM*13B to your locations?

Many thanks
Yes exactly
REM A174*12b pin 17 is already in use and so is REM A174*14b pin 12??
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I will apologize first for the long post and the repeating information in advance. I am having the same issue as Jus71n. I did everything per BMW's installation instructions. The only other option is moving A3 and A4 wires to another location

Hardware

Tailgate tail lights, Left
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5
A3 BFD_L to A174*12B Pin 17 [ Spot is already taken / splice ]

Tailgate tail lights, Right
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13
A4 BFD_R to A174*14B Pin 12 [ Spot is already taken / splice ]

My understanding is that you would have to splice into the existing wire at those locations. The plus side would be no programming since it is tied directly to the left and right blinker. The negative is that you are splicing into an OEM harness.

Software

In the 'Facelift lights retrofitting' instructions from BMW it states that after installing the lights, 'the retrofit system requires programming/coding'. It goes on to further say that -
  • Connect the car to the ISTA work shop system
  • Call up the ISTA/P car programming facility
  • If using ISTA/P, please note the instructions provided in the ISTA/P application documentation
  • Select the "LCI tail lights" retro fit via the Conversions path and work through the created action plan
  • If necessary, carry out a car test using the ISTA system and note or work through any entered error memory
  • Conduct a function test
I have no idea what that means since I do not have the esys software or a PC. I've been using the Bimmercode app in manual mode to enter the codes. I believe I added the REM codes (below) but not sure what the 'HELC' codes are?

I've manually coded
Flashing Rear
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_IS_LED / aktiv

Reverse lights
REM 3061 RFS_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_IS_LED / aktiv

Brake lights outside
REM / 3061 / BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_IS_LED / aktiv

Interior Brake lights
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_IS_LED / aktiv

Rear fog lights
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_IS_LED / aktiv
I also tried
[ 3062 ]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BLINKER_H_L_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BLINKER_H_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.7V [Default]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BLINKER_H_R_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BLINKER_H_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.7V [Default]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_L_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 100% [Default]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_R_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 100% [Default]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BREMSL_L_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BREMSL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.5V [Default]
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BREMSL_R_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3062 / MAPPING_BREMSL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.5V [Default]

[ 3063 ]
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_L_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.5V [Default]
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_R_FIXED_PWM / fixed
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.5V [Default]
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_RUECKFAHRL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.7V [Default]
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_RUECKFAHRL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 13.7V [Default]
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_6_OUTPUT / sl_2_l
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_7_OUTPUT / sl_2_r
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_8_OUTPUT / bfd_l
REM / 3063 / MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_9_OUTPUT / bfd_r

[ 3061 ]
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_CCM / ccm_blinker_l
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / dimmed
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_CCM / ccm_blinker_r
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / dimmed
REM / 3061 / BL_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / aktiv [Default]
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_R_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / aktiv [Default]
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / aktiv [Default]
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_CCM / NEW_ccm_nsl_r
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ / aktiv [Default]
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG / nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / RFS_L_CCM / NEW_ccm_rfs_l
REM / 3061 / SL_2_L_CCM / Fxx_ccm_sl_2_l
REM / 3061 / SL_2_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / SL_2_R_CCM / Fxx_ccm_sl_2_r
REM / 3061 / SL_2_R_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / SL_L_IS_LED / aktiv
REM / 3061 / SL_R_IS_LED / aktiv
So after all of this I am tempted to splice into the other wires. I was not sure if anyone had any suggestions or clarifications? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Here is a complete TUTO to mount new full LED taillights for BMW F30 /M3F80
Nice work David. I followed your instructions and Viola! my 2013 F30 now looks stunning...more like 2016 F30!!!!
See pictures below.
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I will apologize first for the long post and the repeating information in advance. I am having the same issue as Jus71n. I did everything per BMW's installation instructions. The only other option is moving A3 and A4 wires to another location

Hardware

Tailgate tail lights, Left
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5
A3 BFD_L to A174*12B Pin 17 [ Spot is already taken / splice ]

Tailgate tail lights, Right
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13
A4 BFD_R to A174*14B Pin 12 [ Spot is already taken / splice ]

My understanding is that you would have to splice into the existing wire at those locations. The plus side would be no programming since it is tied directly to the left and right blinker. The negative is that you are splicing into an OEM harness.

So after all of this I am tempted to splice into the other wires. I was not sure if anyone had any suggestions or clarifications? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Yep, that's what I did, splice into the middle the two OEM wires to join the retrofit harness, so I can get right signal to the inner tail light.

Davids post is quite clear and that's what I followed. All done in less than 1hr
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Nice work David. I followed your instructions and Viola! my 2013 F30 now looks stunning...more like 2016 F30!!!!
See pictures below.

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REM A174*12b pin 17 is already in use and so is REM A174*14b pin 12??

it is normal, it is the wires of the indicators right and left outside
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tutorial
Thanks for the awesome tutorial Dave!

For anyone having issues:

Tailgate tail lights, Left
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5 or Splice A3 BFD_L to A174*12B Pin 17

Tailgate tail lights, Right
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13 or Splice A4 BFD_R to A174*14B Pin 12
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Thanks for the awesome tutorial Dave!

For anyone having issues:

Tailgate tail lights, Left
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5 or Splice A3 BFD_L to A174*12B Pin 17

Tailgate tail lights, Right
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13 or Splice A4 BFD_R to A174*14B Pin 12


Thank you elgydium

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Did you succeed ?

Here, learn to add HO-Wort HELC and VO Coding REM:
1. E-Sys => Expert Mode => Coding
2. Read FA => Name FA "HELC.xml" => Save FA => Edit FA (FA Opens up in FA-Editor)
3. In FA, Right-Click on HO-Wort => New => HO-Wort
4. Add "HELC"
5. Right-Click on FA at top of VO => Calculate FP
6. Verify in Vehicle Profile [x] Aftermarket_Fitment => [xxxx] HELC_LCI_REAR_LIGHT
7. Save FA
8. E-Sys => Expert Mode => Coding
9. Load modified "HELC.xml"
10. Right-Click on FA => Activate FA
11. Read SVT (VCM)
12. Right-Click on CAS (the ECU itself not the underlying CAFD) => Select CODE.

Oem bmw
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13
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The other method is to fold on the outside lights right and left
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Thank you elgydium

Magnificent

Did you succeed ?

Here, learn to add HO-Wort HELC and VO Coding REM:
1. E-Sys => Expert Mode => Coding
2. Read FA => Name FA "HELC.xml" => Save FA => Edit FA (FA Opens up in FA-Editor)
3. In FA, Right-Click on HO-Wort => New => HO-Wort
4. Add "HELC"
5. Right-Click on FA at top of VO => Calculate FP
6. Verify in Vehicle Profile [x] Aftermarket_Fitment => [xxxx] HELC_LCI_REAR_LIGHT
7. Save FA
8. E-Sys => Expert Mode => Coding
9. Load modified "HELC.xml"
10. Right-Click on FA => Activate FA
11. Read SVT (VCM)
12. Right-Click on CAS (the ECU itself not the underlying CAFD) => Select CODE.

Oem bmw
A3 BFD_L to A174*13B Pin 5
A4 BFD_R to A174*13B Pin 13
Hey David, thanks a lot buddy, I was fidling with it and found the solution like literally 30mins ago before u hit me with a reply.

The *13B module does not work for me, only splicing the exterior break lights or the *12B & *14B modules.

I'll hit the shops tomorrow and see if I can find any Skotchlok connectors or else it's the ghetto option for me lol

Tho I am thinking the coding option, I like a challenge. :rock:

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Hey David, thanks a lot buddy, I was fidling with it and found the solution like literally 30mins ago before u hit me with a reply.

The *13B module does not work for me, only splicing the exterior break lights or the *12B & *14B modules.

I'll hit the shops tomorrow and see if I can find any Skotchlok connectors or else it's the ghetto option for me lol

Tho I am thinking the coding option, I like a challenge. :rock:

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