[Howowcanigo]

Originally Posted by Can Inelli

I will write as soon as I found about this. It would be so unfortunate to get the small screen without NAV and then find out that the software is different and/or there are limitations. I hope every function stays the same with the standard non-NAV screen.

Here are some examples of the screens, as I have noticed the small screens also look different between themselves

1-Small Screen without NAV: (thus different iDrive Knob)

http://i55.tinypic.com/23hubr7.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/34981gg.jpg (closeup pic of the knob)

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...3&d=1321309502

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...3&d=1326650557

http://img.donanimhaber.com/upfiles/...7F1C20C71E.jpg (closeup pic of the knob)

2-Small Screen with NAV:

http://www.f30post.com/goodiesforyou.../P90081924.jpg

http://www.f30post.com/forums/attach...0&d=1327056120

3- "Controller with and without Navigation System" shown in User's Manual:

http://f.cl.ly/items/1K07050i1k1N120...22.06%20PM.png

edited: I am still trying to find whether there are limitations and differences to the iDrive Software without the NAV.

Could it be that the iDrive screen has the plastic trim around it when you don't order the instrument cluster with enhanced functionality?
There are some pictures above that show the iDrive screen of the F20. Maybe that's a difference too?

Howow

[Can258]

Originally Posted by Howowcanigo

Could it be that the iDrive screen has the plastic trim around it when you don't order the instrument cluster with enhanced functionality?
There are some pictures above that show the iDrive screen of the F20. Maybe that's a difference too?

Howow

Well it looks like it is the same with F30 without Nav there is the plastic trim around the screen. I am not sure if the plastic trim is related to the enhanced instrument cluster functionality.

If you don't get Nav they change the iDrive knob and limit the movement of the knob and put less buttons, I wonder if they also downgraded the iDrive software and limited some functions/settings.

[doublevanosrc]

Is the Variable Sport Steering option just another name for Active Steering??

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by doublevanosrc

Is the Variable Sport Steering option just another name for Active Steering??

similar but not the same- http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

[okolisr]

The Q&A summary at the beginning of this thread states that xDrive will be available with manual transmission only "for some models". One of the other BMW forums more or less states as a fact in their Q&A that only the 328i xDrive will be offered with the 6-speed manual transmission, not the 335i xDrive -- which would be tragic. My BMW CA also scared me with similar information.

What factual information do we have from BMW on this topic, or are these all just rumors?

[emtrey]

M sport package shows M sport suspension included..is this the same as non M adpative suspension included in the sport line package or a "firmer" non adaptive suspension.

[bmrm396]

^^^ i hope its firmer ... but its prolly just the same

[trk06]

still run flats and no spare ?

[Weaselboy]

Originally Posted by turk06

still run flats and no spare ?

Yep.

[Reezy]

Any one know the wheel offset for f30 in 19"??

[JoeyO]

Can the wheels that hold the run-flat tires also hold regular tires, or do I need to buy new wheels when swapping tires?

[Jason]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

Can the wheels that hold the run-flat tires also hold regular tires, or do I need to buy new wheels when swapping tires?

You can simply unmount the runflat tires and mount regular tires. No need for different/new wheels.

[Rdx]

There were a lot of questions regarding theft prevention, but then I saw this picture of a recent F20. I hope my F30 doesn't gets the same screen mounts, because it looks like slide&go for thief's.

[DrivenByE30]

why would anyone want to steal the screen?? steal the whole car!!! what can they possibly do with a screen ??

[Rdx]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

why would anyone want to steal the screen?? steal the whole car!!! what can they possibly do with a screen ??

I've really no idea, but they steal it easily apparently.

[svache]

From the looks of it, the screen isn't the only thing they took from that car :S

[Rdx]

Originally Posted by svache

From the looks of it, the screen isn't the only thing they took from that car :S

Full center console stolen. No Alarm?

[svache]

Originally Posted by Rdx

Full center console stolen. No Alarm?

Makes me wonder what they want with it all :S

But yeah, I love the new screen but at the same time I wonder if it is not 'too much there', too much visible. For uninformed thieves it may look like some portable nav that has been placed there instead of something that is actually part of the car.

[Vervain]

Question:

Is a black headliner available for the F30 in sportline or is that still reserved for the m-sport ?

Also, does anyone have live pictures of the sportline with the 17" style 392 rims that are the standard rims on the 320i and 320d sportline?

Thanks

[Howowcanigo]

Originally Posted by Rdx

I've really no idea, but they steal it easily apparently.

Originally Posted by svache

From the looks of it, the screen isn't the only thing they took from that car :S

Originally Posted by Rdx

Full center console stolen. No Alarm?

Originally Posted by svache

Makes me wonder what they want with it all :S

But yeah, I love the new screen but at the same time I wonder if it is not 'too much there', too much visible. For uninformed thieves it may look like some portable nav that has been placed there instead of something that is actually part of the car.

There's no mentionning of that being a photo from a center console that was mugged, is there...? Because this could easily be a photo of someone opening it up for whatever other reason.

Howow

[Rdx]

Originally Posted by Howowcanigo

There's no mentionning of that being a photo from a center console that was mugged, is there...? Because this could easily be a photo of someone opening it up for whatever other reason.

Howow

It says so on the dutch forums, 4k damage It seems very easy to do;

But even on the F10 it is like making pancakes;

But with Navi PRO, everything is on the HDD, so stealing would be more difficult.

[Howowcanigo]

Originally Posted by Rdx

It says so on the dutch forums, 4k damage It seems very easy to do;

Oh, ok, sorry

Howow