Comparo: 4 Series Coupe Versus 3 Series Sedan

KevRyd · 06-18-2013, 12:08 PM

Cosmetic design decision.

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Originally Posted by ramuman

Why does the 4 series have one less pedal?

FotiosF90M5 · 06-18-2013, 12:12 PM

I think they are both gorgeous but very very similar. there are some things I like better on the 4 series and visa versa. I do however think the msport f30 looks cleaner and lower to the ground (front and rear bumpers) than the msport f32. The f30 msport seems thicker and I like how the front bumper goes down around the front intercooler opening, dont know why they didnt do it for the f32. I LOVE the rear fenders of the 4. I wish the 3 had them. I think the f32 will do just fine. My next car is the grand coupe for sure.

r3dbimmer89 · 06-18-2013, 12:28 PM

I can see the subtle differences between the F30 and the F32. Very subtle and the average person wouldn't be able to tell but I can see them. The biggest difference is in the back and of course the side profile but I prefer the F32 overall...

Who? · 06-18-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by catalyst

Oh wow...the F32 rear end looks awful next the the F30. Other than that & the side vents, I like both F30 and F32.

Was thinking opposite, the angled rear lights look much better than the rounded ones on the f30.. maybe someday I can retrofit one of these..

tennistodd · 06-18-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Juke

F30 is absolutely fantastic!!! Much better than F32

No doubt!
It's so elegant and pure

The front is so much better! The curves

Me Like!!!

F32 is sad copy of it....

This! Sad 4er. Was looking to trade but not now. Everything is wrong. Maybe when the modding begins I'll change my mind. Hehehe

Hoa · 06-18-2013, 12:39 PM

This is just a 3 series coupe. They just call it 4 series to make more money. This is nothing like the original 4 series coupe.

So we will have M4 and no more M3 since the 3 series coupe appears to be replaced with 4 series?

YeaG30 · 06-18-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Looks like the F32 has a metal highlight around the glovebox latch/lock. Might be a cheap little upgrade for the F30-I like it.

I noticed that too. I guess they had to do at least one thing different from the F30 interior. That and the Coral Red extends all the way to the lower half of the dash.

Diver · 06-18-2013, 12:57 PM

Much the same under the sheet metal , but where does that .1 second on the 0-60 come from?

Vervain · 06-18-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

Much the same under the sheet metal , but where does that .1 second on the 0-60 come from?

I also want to know this.

Could you put up the weights of both, Jason?

lbahoshy · 06-18-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

Much the same under the sheet metal , but where does that .1 second on the 0-60 come from?

Marketing !!

Either that or the subtle aerodynamic advantage the sleeker amd lower roofline of the 4 series may provide (reduced drag?)

TSXforme · 06-18-2013, 01:21 PM

I'm going to wonder who here would be the first to do a front end swap (if possible)?

B///MWGuy · 06-18-2013, 01:42 PM

is it possible to compare interior space as well? like leg room, head room, etc

openwheelracing · 06-18-2013, 01:42 PM

I just don't understand the 3 series coupe (4 series). The E92 was so girly except the M3.

Sport sedan with 2 doors just does not work well. Looks at a proper coupe like Porsche Cayman or even the Mustang, they look so much better.

Gjm127 · 06-18-2013, 02:23 PM

I guess my question should go here: Is there any chance the 4-series convertible comes in x-drive?

bavarianboar · 06-18-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

If they did more variation from the F30 inside, than the cost would have been higher-so people would bitch about that instead.

The F32 in 335 guise is only $900 more than the E92 yet offers more equipment. Meanwhile the F30 was a couple grand more than the E90.

So even with the numbers gain of 4 series vs 3 series, the price increase is small.

Having a unique dash or some of the other complaints would equate to a bloated sticker price.

Sorry that makes no sense. Why don't the 5 and the 6 interiors look the same and the cost can still be kept low. All BMWs should look the same inside to keep the costs down.

We are talking about production lines, thousands of F32s being made.

I wonder how this interior will look on a convertible, I have my doubts about it.

When you are marketing a new line or new series, there have to be more changes than the leather color matching plastic dash. There is no way to defend the excessive similarity in the interiors, granted it will not stop people from buying/leasing the F32.

bavarianboar · 06-18-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SedateMe

Interior:
Ctrl+C, Ctrl+P

Not quite the departure from the 3 series sedan I was hoping for to warrant the new naming scheme but the F30 is already awesome so I supposed that's not a bad thing.

Not printing with Ctrl P

Command+C, Command+V

hyperboost · 06-18-2013, 02:28 PM

I like the sedan BETTER. and no I don't own any series at the moment!

Sedan_Clan · 06-18-2013, 02:30 PM

If it's possible, I can foresee many people swapping coupe front fenders for sedan front fenders.

Jamesons Viggen · 06-18-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bavarianboar

Sorry that makes no sense. Why don't the 5 and the 6 interiors look the same and the cost can still be kept low. All BMWs should look the same inside to keep the costs down.

We are talking about production lines, thousands of F32s being made.

I wonder how this interior will look on a convertible, I have my doubts about it.

When you are marketing a new line or new series, there have to be more changes than the leather color matching plastic dash. There is no way to defend the excessive similarity in the interiors, granted it will not stop people from buying/leasing the F32.

The cost between the 5 and 6 is huge ($53k for a 535 vs $75k for a 640) , the 3-4 in some instances is $900. Your argument is invalidated right there. $20k MSRP delta affords you a lot more tooling+design and materals that can be unique to the 6 vs 5. Do you not see $900 as a lot smaller than $20,000?

For every part that the 4 does not share with the 3, price goes up. It's really that simple.

Shaw · 06-18-2013, 02:45 PM

If I haven't had the new 3 series...It would have been a "WoW" factor...but it doesn't provide me with that of a greater incentive to say " yes, I really want it"...does that make sense?

tbensous · 06-18-2013, 02:46 PM

If they changed the badge from 3 to 4, why make the 2 cars so similar... Almost cannot tell the difference between the two apart from the number of doors and roof line... (Most people won't)

5 and 6 series make much more sense, they look different inside and outside. They are two different cars...

Even e92 was much more different from e90 ...

Very disappointing to see the coupe doesn't have its own personality... Obvious on these side by side photos...

Shaw · 06-18-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tbensous

If they changed the badge from 3 to 4, why make the 2 cars so similar... Almost cannot tell the difference between the two apart from the number of doors and roof line... (Most people won't)

5 and 6 series make much more sense, they look different inside and outside. They are two different cars...

Even e92 was much more different from e90 ...

Very disappointing to see the coupe doesn't have its own personality... Obvious on these side by side photos...

I tend to agree with you....

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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 770 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	I think they are both gorgeous but very very similar. there are some things I like better on the 4 series and visa versa. I do however think the msport f30 looks cleaner and lower to the ground (front and rear bumpers) than the msport f32. The f30 msport seems thicker and I like how the front bumper goes down around the front intercooler opening, dont know why they didnt do it for the f32. I LOVE the rear fenders of the 4. I wish the 3 had them. I think the f32 will do just fine. My next car is the grand coupe for sure. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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r3dbimmer89 Major 331 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: P-Car Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I can see the subtle differences between the F30 and the F32. Very subtle and the average person wouldn't be able to tell but I can see them. The biggest difference is in the back and of course the side profile but I prefer the F32 overall... __________________ Past: BMW (22 G20 M340i, 15 F80 ///M3, 12 E92 335i, 08 E90 335i, 02 E46 325i) Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, VW, Lexus Present: 24 992 C2
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Hoa Major 513 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA iTrader: (9)	This is just a 3 series coupe. They just call it 4 series to make more money. This is nothing like the original 4 series coupe. So we will have M4 and no more M3 since the 3 series coupe appears to be replaced with 4 series?
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Diver Brigadier General 504 Rep 3,446 Posts Drives: Black '12 135i - Sold Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Much the same under the sheet metal , but where does that .1 second on the 0-60 come from? __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com
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openwheelracing Captain 192 Rep 814 Posts Drives: 5 different 3 Series Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Santa Barbara, CA iTrader: (0)	I just don't understand the 3 series coupe (4 series). The E92 was so girly except the M3. Sport sedan with 2 doors just does not work well. Looks at a proper coupe like Porsche Cayman or even the Mustang, they look so much better.
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tbensous Lieutenant 51 Rep 593 Posts Drives: BMW 325i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	If they changed the badge from 3 to 4, why make the 2 cars so similar... Almost cannot tell the difference between the two apart from the number of doors and roof line... (Most people won't) 5 and 6 series make much more sense, they look different inside and outside. They are two different cars... Even e92 was much more different from e90 ... Very disappointing to see the coupe doesn't have its own personality... Obvious on these side by side photos...
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