Auto + handbrake = roll

Steve_M_Sport · 03-07-2013, 03:56 AM

My F11 5 series auto does the same as did the E61 5 Series I had before that. It is not a problem unless you have precision parked 1" away from a post.......

Moleeuk · 03-11-2013, 05:44 PM

Mine does this too. Had local dealer check it out and they said all ok and normal following a minor adjustment. Still does it.....

JOE YOUNG · 04-10-2013, 03:21 PM

had on my e90,x1 and f30.sp i say its normal.

CKau · 04-10-2013, 03:30 PM

I have an F30 320d loaner and noticed the park brake negages on the 1st click unlike my 328i which actually takes 6 clicks to engage.

I doubt engine type should influence the behaviour so i phoned up the service area to notify them of the difference.

Hope it is adjusted when i pick up my car today.

RickyBobbyBtn · 03-11-2015, 10:14 AM

Interesting to read this...

I've just bought a 2013 X5 3.0d M Sport and noticed immediately that it rolls (only an inch or so) when I cut the engine. No movement when hitting 'P' and no movement when activating the the electronic hand brake BUT as soon as I cut the engine it moves slightly in the direction of the decline.

I've read elsewhere that this is to do with the switch from hydrolic brakes, which pinch all 4 wheels when the engine is running, to the mechanical brakes, which pinch only the rear 2 wheels when the engine is off...

I am satisfied with the explanation however I'm curious as to why it didn't do it on a hire X3 I had recently or the courtesy car X4 I've got now whilst they investigate the problem...

HighlandPete · 03-11-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Roppo

I am satisfied with the explanation however I'm curious as to why it didn't do it on a hire X3 I had recently or the courtesy car X4 I've got now whilst they investigate the problem...

Explanation is definitely plausible due to the Autohold feature we have in the X5 and cars like my F11.

I imagine part of it will be the extra weight of the vehicle and weight transfer onto the rear suspension when using the parking brake. Rear suspensions are different designs in X3/4 and X5, I suspect the integral link design of the X5 allows a bit more rotational movement when loaded on the brakes. Suspension compliance is also another variable, and greater 'flexing' in the X5 another possibility.

HighlandPete

NISFAN · 03-11-2015, 11:11 AM

Holy thread resurrection......Ha brings back memories of the original F30 buyers.

Steven1077 · 03-11-2015, 11:22 AM

Mine doesn't move with the hand brake on, only does that in park

ukbeemerboy · 03-11-2015, 02:12 PM

All mine have done this, perfectly normal....

....,,,,..,,.. · 03-11-2015, 02:50 PM

Ehh ?

So someone bought an X5 to ask a question about an X3 on a 2 year old F30 thread

Threads on house prices are more on topic...

Mattyk · 03-11-2015, 02:53 PM

Look to the positive, the new op found the original thread and posted, using the search!

Takes the fun out or recirculating the issues though

....,,,,..,,.. · 03-11-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Look to the positive, the new op found the original thread and posted, using the search!

Takes the fun out or recirculating the issues though

True, someone googled the issue for an X5 issue not showing on an X3, this then showed the F30 forum.

They then did a search of F30 issues and posted - respect

HighlandPete · 03-11-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven1077

Mine doesn't move with the hand brake on, only does that in park

Is the handbrake almost binding?

Due to the nature of the mechanism there will be some play, gets more as a bit of wear (and/or slack) takes over. Many are poorly adjusted, so rock quite a bit when holding on the parking brake.

HighlandPete

Kal101 · 03-12-2015, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Brigand

Ehh ?

So someone bought an X5 to ask a question about an X3 on a 2 year old F30 thread

Threads on house prices are more on topic...

Recycle. The possibilities are endless !!!

Both my 3 s and my wife's 1 all do the same thing.

SomeRandomer123 · 03-12-2015, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Holy thread resurrection......Ha brings back memories of the original F30 buyers.

Doesn't it just! I'm fast approaching 70,000mls now and due to get rid of it in a few months as that'll be its 3 year stint up. Time flies!

NISFAN · 03-12-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

Doesn't it just! I'm fast approaching 70,000mls now and due to get rid of it in a few months as that'll be its 3 year stint up. Time flies!

Hi Matey, what are you going for next?

Steven1077 · 03-12-2015, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Is the handbrake almost binding?

Due to the nature of the mechanism there will be some play, gets more as a bit of wear (and/or slack) takes over. Many are poorly adjusted, so rock quite a bit when holding on the parking brake.

HighlandPete

Yeah the car's only done 1500 miles so I'm sure everything is still tight

SomeRandomer123 · 03-16-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Hi Matey, what are you going for next?

With apologies, I've ordered an Audi A6 Avant Ultra, Black Edition.

I should create a thread explaining myself really shouldn't I...

DickieGibbo · 03-16-2015, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobUK

So it seems like other F30's do this although not sure if it's normal. Certainly sounds like the recommended sequence is to apply the handbrake before before putting the car in Park and then taking your foot off the brake pedal.

One thing I haven't tried is stopping on an incline, putting the car in neutral then applying the handbrake and seeing how much is does/doesn't roll.

My e90 did this. F10 didn't and F30 does.

My drive has a slight incline and I use handbrake and obviously park. The car always move forward with a creaking. It makes me think I haven't pulled the handbrake up high enough!

As already has been said think it's normal.

Dickie

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RickyBobbyBtn New Member 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: F15 X5 3.0d M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Interesting to read this... I've just bought a 2013 X5 3.0d M Sport and noticed immediately that it rolls (only an inch or so) when I cut the engine. No movement when hitting 'P' and no movement when activating the the electronic hand brake BUT as soon as I cut the engine it moves slightly in the direction of the decline. I've read elsewhere that this is to do with the switch from hydrolic brakes, which pinch all 4 wheels when the engine is running, to the mechanical brakes, which pinch only the rear 2 wheels when the engine is off... I am satisfied with the explanation however I'm curious as to why it didn't do it on a hire X3 I had recently or the courtesy car X4 I've got now whilst they investigate the problem...
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