Charge Pipe Failure! Already started! **Updated with Pics**

Chicken_Joe · 09-28-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

The failures are usually at the throttle body connection. Not mid pipe where teh flex is. even if there is flex there is a lot of TQ on the flange which is what causes most failures (IMO)

Mike

SO my buddies theory would be plausible?

90rr · 09-29-2016, 12:56 PM

Mine failed last 2 weeks ago at 32k miles. 2013 335i msport. Replacement was done by the dealer and it was pretty much painless. I hope they replacing with reinforced or reingeniered part.

mbanks21 · 09-29-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 90rr

Mine failed last 2 weeks ago at 32k miles. 2013 335i msport. Replacement was done by the dealer and it was pretty much painless. I hope they replacing with reinforced or reingeniered part.

Nope

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-29-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 90rr

Mine failed last 2 weeks ago at 32k miles. 2013 335i msport. Replacement was done by the dealer and it was pretty much painless. I hope they replacing with reinforced or reingeniered part.

Unfortunately not.

They are cheap enough to them to just replace as needed.

If you want the real fix you need to go with an aftermarket aluminum.

TSiSPY007 · 09-30-2016, 12:27 AM

Anyone know the status of the VRSF CP for the F30 335i xDrives? Tiago said that they're revising it. I see a VRSF one listed on Extreme Power House (www.x-ph.com) still but it doesn't specify "XDrives". I know Mike doesn't carry it at N54tuning, or I'd have bought it from his Cdn warehouse! Any idea where if I can get one that's not as pricy as the ER one to fit my '13 335i xDrive?

Thanks!

Fred

mike@x-ph.com · 09-30-2016, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TSiSPY007

Anyone know the status of the VRSF CP for the F30 335i xDrives? Tiago said that they're revising it. I see a VRSF one listed on Extreme Power House (www.x-ph.com) still but it doesn't specify "XDrives". I know Mike doesn't carry it at N54tuning, or I'd have bought it from his Cdn warehouse! Any idea where if I can get one that's not as pricy as the ER one to fit my '13 335i xDrive?

Thanks!

Fred

Hi Fred,
VRSF CP fits the RWD only at this time.

Navy435 · 10-01-2016, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Can someone confirm if this is normal amount of movement on the cp? I'm having boost leak issues and this is all I can think of

Yes, this is normal. To give you more peace of mind, take a look at the installation instructions. It says there should be a small gap like yours because of the expansion of the stock plastic charge pipe. I just installed mine and have the exact same give. If you have an xdrive and are having low boost, I would bet it's the lower tclamp not tightened enough or properly...that step was the worst of the entire install on an xdrive. Hope this helps.

mbanks21 · 10-01-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy435

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Can someone confirm if this is normal amount of movement on the cp? I'm having boost leak issues and this is all I can think of

Yes, this is normal. To give you more peace of mind, take a look at the installation instructions. It says there should be a small gap like yours because of the expansion of the stock plastic charge pipe. I just installed mine and have the exact same give. If you have an xdrive and are having low boost, I would bet it's the lower tclamp not tightened enough or properly...that step was the worst of the entire install on an xdrive. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the input. We're actually leaning towards diverter valve issue. Dealership is checking it out on Monday!

flwbyu · 10-01-2016, 05:29 PM

Just out of curiosity, what does changing the chargepipe do for emissions? I noticed that a lot of them are cat-less. Since I am in a state that follows CA rules, wanted to make sure I am not causing myself unnecessary drama. Thanks.

mbanks21 · 10-01-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by flwbyu

Just out of curiosity, what does changing the chargepipe do for emissions? I noticed that a lot of them are cat-less. Since I am in a state that follows CA rules, wanted to make sure I am not causing myself unnecessary drama. Thanks.

Chargepipes don't have cats, you're thinking of downpipes

flwbyu · 10-02-2016, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

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Originally Posted by flwbyu

Just out of curiosity, what does changing the chargepipe do for emissions? I noticed that a lot of them are cat-less. Since I am in a state that follows CA rules, wanted to make sure I am not causing myself unnecessary drama. Thanks.

Chargepipes don't have cats, you're thinking of downpipes

Ah, my bad. D'oh!

Navy435 · 10-02-2016, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Thanks for the input. We're actually leaning towards diverter valve issue. Dealership is checking it out on Monday!

Glad you figured it out. I am installing my GFB DV+ within the next few weeks. I heard it is great for holding boost. Good luck.

Navy435 · 10-02-2016, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by flwbyu

Ah, my bad. D'oh!

What state do you live in? In CA, you aren't allowed to modify your downpipe at all. In fact, you're mostly restricted to a CARB approved intake and cat back exhaust to have a street legal car (but a lot of mechanics turn their head). If your state does emissions testing, don't do a downpipe. If they don't, but say downpipes are illegal, you can probably get away with a HFC downpipe or a cat less if you know your shop well enough. I have the Wagner HFC downpipe and love it.

TMac335i · 10-02-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Here is a pic of the failure point on customers car.. Flange to Throttle body. Waiting for pics of the actual damage once CP is removed and replaced with the ER charge pipe.

Mike

Mine just blew today, same spot.

Bestia · 10-03-2016, 10:13 PM

2014 435i (47,700 miles) - My stock cp failed Saturday after two enjoyable pulls at 85% throttle. I was able to ductape it back and took it to dealership this morning. I had my car back by lunch time. I live in Houston so the heat and humidity is extreme. Regardless, the cp will fail. Make sure you have a roll of ductape with you at all times.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-04-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bestia

2014 435i (47,700 miles) - My stock cp failed Saturday after two enjoyable pulls at 85% throttle. I was able to ductape it back and took it to dealership this morning. I had my car back by lunch time. I live in Houston so the heat and humidity is extreme. Regardless, the cp will fail. Make sure you have a roll of ductape with you at all times.

Is your car stock?

Bestia · 10-04-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Is your car stock?

It was stock through 47,500 miles. Dinantronics Sport+ for two hundred miles. I believe the stock cp is a weaklink. The engine bay gets too hot for it to last. My cp looked identical to the one you had a picture of in the original post.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-04-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bestia

It was stock through 47,500 miles. Dinantronics Sport+ for two hundred miles. I believe the stock cp is a weaklink. The engine bay gets too hot for it to last. My cp looked identical to the one you had a picture of in the original post.

I'm a different Mike

Bestia · 10-04-2016, 04:13 PM

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I'm a different Mike

Ha

The M&Ms should join forces and take over BimmerWorld. Both of you are class acts in my opinion, so please take no offense.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-04-2016, 04:14 PM

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Ha

The M&Ms should join forces and take over BimmerWorld. Both of you are class acts in my opinion, so please take no offense.

HAHA none taken

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-05-2016, 06:26 PM

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HAHA none taken

I guess M&MTuning needs to be started

Mike

mike@x-ph.com · 10-05-2016, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I guess M&MTuning needs to be started

Mike

09-29-2016, 12:56 PM	#90
90rr Lieutenant 107 Rep 459 Posts Drives: 2021 M340i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boca Raton FL iTrader: (0)	Mine failed last 2 weeks ago at 32k miles. 2013 335i msport. Replacement was done by the dealer and it was pretty much painless. I hope they replacing with reinforced or reingeniered part.
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TSiSPY007 Second Lieutenant 70 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 13 335i xDrive;16 X1;96 4G63T Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: BC, CANADA iTrader: (1)	Anyone know the status of the VRSF CP for the F30 335i xDrives? Tiago said that they're revising it. I see a VRSF one listed on Extreme Power House (www.x-ph.com) still but it doesn't specify "XDrives". I know Mike doesn't carry it at N54tuning, or I'd have bought it from his Cdn warehouse! Any idea where if I can get one that's not as pricy as the ER one to fit my '13 335i xDrive? Thanks! Fred
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10-01-2016, 05:29 PM	#97
flwbyu Private 17 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 335i M Sport 6MT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0)	Just out of curiosity, what does changing the chargepipe do for emissions? I noticed that a lot of them are cat-less. Since I am in a state that follows CA rules, wanted to make sure I am not causing myself unnecessary drama. Thanks.
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Bestia Private First Class 65 Rep 122 Posts Drives: F32 435i, (sold) e70, e39 M5 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	2014 435i (47,700 miles) - My stock cp failed Saturday after two enjoyable pulls at 85% throttle. I was able to ductape it back and took it to dealership this morning. I had my car back by lunch time. I live in Houston so the heat and humidity is extreme. Regardless, the cp will fail. Make sure you have a roll of ductape with you at all times.
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