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      10-07-2013, 01:10 AM   #23
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      10-07-2013, 02:14 AM   #24
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I know prices vary from country to country, but don't forget to factor in currency exchange costs. It closes the gap, but there are still some countries that are way more expensive than the US or Europe for that matter.
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According to the internet, and I know its a Pandora's box of truth, the average Nett salary in Italy is $2400 US and Australia's is $3200.

The BASE 420d, not even a M sport, in Australia is $80k!

80K $ equals to 60k euros so the price is higher but not so much, i wonder how people can afford a car in Egypt or Malaysia if the base price is 100k
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      10-07-2013, 02:48 AM   #26
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Australians often complain about car prices but they don't reveal the full picture: salaries are also vastly higher than in Europe...
As an australian: LOL no

Average wage is barely higher, adjusted for PPP it's LOWER

and iirc SWEDEN has the highest average wage in the world!
Sweden???

LOL

You mean Switzerland
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      10-07-2013, 03:30 AM   #27
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Australian prices are a rot, we pay to much in made up taxes, not BMW's fault.
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According to the internet, and I know its a Pandora's box of truth, the average Nett salary in Italy is $2400 US and Australia's is $3200.

The BASE 420d, not even a M sport, in Australia is $80k!

80K $ equals to 60k euros so the price is higher but not so much, i wonder how people can afford a car in Egypt or Malaysia if the base price is 100k
Come to Malaysia and u will see the street is full of luxury car. Esp friday night till sunday morning in Kuala Lumpur.
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Cars are relatively inexpensive in the US, but other things wipe you out: health care, tuition, property taxes.

Also, too little investment in public infrastructure and services. Roads are crappy, unbelievable numbers of people in jail, and the US is pretty much at the bottom or close to it in all categories related to the well-being of the public among developed countries (education, health care, upward mobility, etc.)

But as long as we have cheaper cars, gas, flat screen TVs, and bulk food people are happy (the important stuff requires too much thinking and is too depressing for 99% of the population, so ignorance and denial are bliss.)

Sorry, but this "you in the US are so lucky to pay less for cars" gets to me because it's so ignorant of the bigger picture of the reality of life in the US. We may have cheaper cars, but we pay dearly in other areas. There are good reasons for the lack of immigration to the US from other developed countries over the last 20-30 years.
You're right, I'd probably pay 90.000 Eur for a 428i rather than paying 35.000 USD to 3 nights stay in a hospital in US. By the way, we are paying around 1000 dollars for the annual "full" insurance for a car like 428i here, what is your monthly insurance fee in US for a car like this
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Sweden???

LOL

You mean Switzerland
Yea, can't be us. We might win the highest taxes price though (not on cars, mind you)!
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      10-07-2013, 11:31 PM   #35
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Wow, didn't intend to kick up such a stink / discussion. My point was that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I'm fully aware that, while the price of cars, houses, insurance, electronics, white goods, furniture, books, DVD's (pause for a breath) are attractive in the good ol' US of A, there are also good reasons to NOT contemplate living there. Just as us Aussies, on our $150K+ base per year salaries, with 10% income tax rate, 2% Goods and Services Tax etc think we're the lucky country. Yes, that was a joke.

The taxes on my car were: $12,224.07 Luxury Car Tax, $7,335.38 Stamp Duty and then, to finish it all off $9,079.99 Goods and Services Tax. That's $28,639.44 in direct taxes.

But, that said, I can afford it, so I did
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About $1300/yr if you got good driving record and don't leave in Manhattan, NY. Also most folks got health insurance and don't have to pay $35K for three nights in the hospital, so it's not really all that bad...

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You're right, I'd probably pay 90.000 Eur for a 428i rather than paying 35.000 USD to 3 nights stay in a hospital in US. By the way, we are paying around 1000 dollars for the annual "full" insurance for a car like 428i here, what is your monthly insurance fee in US for a car like this
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Another popcorn thread?
C'mon man! You know that our Popcorn is more expensive as yours! I can't afford it even if i leave the butter off it...
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      10-08-2013, 06:26 PM   #38
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Also most folks got health insurance and don't have to pay $35K for three nights in the hospital, so it's not really all that bad...
Most people have health insurance which is tied to their employment. If they get seriously sick, they lose their job and their somewhat affordable employer-provided health insurance. Things get really scary after that leading to many bankruptcies.

Hopefully, "Obamacare" will help with all this, but the devil is in the details, and it's really complex and varies from state to state because some states refuse to take the money to implement Medicaid expansion, so you can still fall in the cracks and be in big trouble if you get seriously sick and live in those states.

Anyway, this isn't really a topic for these forums... Just illustrating that focusing on the price of consumer goods like cars misses the bigger picture which is quite a mess in the US.
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      10-08-2013, 06:52 PM   #39
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Try buying a f30 or f35 in China. That's a M3 price in US
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Astronomical taxes as well contribute to their high vehicle prices.
What about being in Serbia where an average salary is $5,000 a year. Cant even get a 25k car let alone 100k....

Sranje...
True enough... Jbg jedino da se odselis sto mi se cini da su mnogi (srbi) na ovom forumu uradili a ja cu isto za pola godine
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True enough... Jbg jedino da se odselis sto mi se cini da su mnogi (srbi) na ovom forumu uradili a ja cu isto za pola godine
Steta da je tako jer Srbija je prelepa uvek bila i bice. Mama mi je bila borac i dovela me ovamo i za to sam zahvalan svaki dan. A Srbija mi stalno nedostaje.

Ako smem da pitam gde putujes? Ja kao i ostali imam familje svugde po evropi, najvise po Svajcarskoj. Sa srecom. Ziv bio.
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