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Those drivers of the cars you all posted were doing in excess of 150 mph. IIRC, The white m5 belonged to a member of m5board.com who was asking how to get more speed out of his car the day before. I think he was 18, was racing with three friends in his car along a closed runway (illegally) when he lost control, hit a dirt barrier and the car flew over 200 feet. Speed was likely around 180 mph.
People who are driving safely, will generally walk away from their accidents with the great job the BMW engineers have done. But you can always find examples where they didn't. That doesn't mean the car hasn't saved hundreds of lives. |
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That's amazing news, glad that you are ok!
Bad news for a beauty ride, enjoy your replacement though!!
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The engineers at Nissan, Honda etc. also do a great job when it comes to safety...people have died in high speed crash in a Nissan 350Z, GT-R and also walked away without a scratch from those crashes. I love German cars but just trying to be objective. |
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Or this photo:
the man walked away, unscathed, and called paramedics himself. He is the 2nd to the left, holding the cell phone. Testimony that German cars are built tough. Glad you are ok buddy. Congrats on your new car. |
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Not just German cars are on this list and no BMW's. The vehicles with the better numbers tend to be large and heavy.
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Pretty sure that volvo has stated no driver will ever die in their vehicles by 2020 or something - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ads-years.html
Reality is, the only 100% safe car is the one that never leaves the driveway. |
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Yes, European cars are built well when compared to others. Tgey have more stringent crash standards. But no matter how well built, contact with a stationary object will always decimate a car. Survival in most cases is pure luck. |
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This new proposed NA/EU free trade act will probably streamline this, especially given that many OEM's (and the larger auto-groups) have been forced to develop global platforms. |
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The passenger of this A6 died and the driver sustained serious injuries. |
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crazy, glad everything was okay in the end and you walked away okay.
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I don't see how the safety of the cars and the daredevilishness of the drivers can be separated. I'm certainly more of a hazard in my BMW than my old Camry.
Given the talk about getting every last tenth of a second off the 0-60 time, and maximum boosting of the power, and the OP talking about taking his family around at 100 mph where they are exposed to bad drivers, my impression is that BMW drivers are not as preoccupied with minimizing danger as Volvo and Mercedes drivers. There is no controlled experiment.
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The XC90 took a 40mph collision to the side without showing ANY damage. It wasn't totaled, it looked nearly flawless. Except for maybe a small dent in the fender and paint scratches, it looked showroom. The car that hit it was totaled. Sorry, but for safety Volvo is still ahead. |
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High speed crashes are a hit or miss definitely. But in crashes like the OP, specifically head on collisions that BMW tirelessly researched and put development money into the crash structure, you can most certainly thank their engineering efforts. Congrats on the new car!
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For starters, IIHS is not a governing body for the industry. Only NHTSA is. IIHS is a lobbying group. The EU has a different set of criteria with respect to crashworthiness than the US. One of the primary differences that comes to mind is roof strength and rollover survival. Since the roof must be sufficiently strong to withstand a rollover the A, B and C pillars must be stronger by default. The US does not enforce roof strength to the levels that the EU does. While NHTSA definitely has regs that differ from the EU, a great number of the differences are related to lighting, reflectors, indicator colors and the like. They don't necessarily increase the crash worthiness of the vehicle. |
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Won't argue about the differences between NA/EU since I'm sure it's very complex and there are various restrictions that go one way or the other, some more important, some less. |
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First time I have ever felt compelled to post something. I've lurked for years and am a big BMW fanboy. About two years ago my E46 laid down her life for me. Over 200,000 miles on her and she saved me from an 18 wheelers wrong and illegal turn while I was on my way to work. I was going 55mph on a highway (the speed limit). It took EMS over an hour to cut me out. I'll drive nothing but BMWs as long as I live. No doubt in my mind, if I would have been driving our Saab, I wouldn't be here. My foot got crushed and some broken bones but that was it. Im on my 4th surgery and always in pain BUT I'd rather have a broken body and still be here. At the time, my daughter was one. That's not enough time in this world with her. Waiting on my f30 at the end of September. So, glad you walked away from that and it's a testament to the car.
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Glad you're okay bro
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