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Thanks for all your help. Just made the order with Max, hopefully it should arrive in the next couple of days.
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A bit more than I expected initially. Going to install it myself and get it remote coded. Installation looks quite straightforward but will need to see the actual kit to confirm.
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NBT Navigation <--- DIY'd in with the help of a few friends and I paid about USD$1700 in parts including touch controller PDC, Reverse Camera, Surround View Camera <--- PDC is very difficult to retrofit as you will need the PDC bumper and wiring to head unit. The reverse camera shares the same module as the surround view but you will need the cameras installed to the side mirrors and that is also labour intensive. Just the reverse camera itself isn't too bad. BMW Apps <--- you can get this with the NBT retrofit if you are using a hardware activator. If your NBT is used and still has the original FSC code for BMW Apps stored in there, it will work. Instrument Cluster with extended scope <--- Do'able but you will need a most cable to connect it to NBT and you will need to code it in properly. If the cluster used, you will also have to delete the mileage.
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Hi Aritaurus, been following your NBT build thread, quite an awesome job you guys did there. Just a few points to add on: 1) The parts for the HK retrofit are quite easily accessible, the only issue is with the labour to pull apart everything, and replace the trim. 2) The PDC retrofit can be done even on a bumper without pre-drilled holes to my understanding, because there are markings at the back of the bumper to indicate drill points. The only challenge would be to get through the firewall in the engine compartment. 3) The instrument cluster retrofit would require a most cable, and also an NBT headunit as well to my understanding. Double whammy I suppose. |
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As for the cameras, you are correct that the reverse isn't bad by itself. Surround view would be a bit tougher, sourcing all the wiring for the hookup was what kept me away from doing that retrofit. If you get a kit it would include it all I'm sure, and it would definitely be a decent time investment to install it all. |
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Teaser...your NBT being preconfigured and loaded with Australian maps |
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Ok I'll bite. I'm interested.
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Drilling the holes does make sense as the PDC sensors come pre-painted. I don't think I could ever trust myself to do that though so it would be really labour intensive. 6WA can be used on any build actually (even HU_ENTRY). Here in Canada, if you take a 328i or 335i in Luxury, Modern, Sport or M Sport, it is standard equipment. One of the bosses at at company has a Luxury Line 335i xDrive with no navigation and he has 6WA on HU_ENTRY. My car came with Comfort Access, CIC, 6WA, Alarm System and the rear PDC so the only thing I really wanted was NBT and the reverse camera. The reverse camera, I'm thinking about getting one of the aftermarket ones that are OEM integrated. They go for about USD$350 on ebay and the camera module seems to emulate the OEM one and it connects t othe KCAN2 lines on NBT so it will work just like OEM.
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I thought about doing the front PDC but it seems like it's going to be the same amount of work if not more and I don't want to do anything too intense that could void my warranty. The NBT retrofit is actually quite easily reversible as it's pretty much just putting the old head unit back in and rerouting the mic and Bluetooth Antenna, putting in the CIC controller and reversing some coding in my case. I still wonder if you retrofit the reverse camera and PDC the OEM way, and code it into you FA properly, will BMW still be able to apply software updates to your car?
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No front PDC on 328i as a standard? Wow...its standard here, anything above and including the 320i has front PDC as standard... How does HU entry communicate with 6WA without the MOST connection? |
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For 2014 models, you get both the front and rear PDC with the premium package now which is $3500. 2014 328i and 335i models also get NBT navigation as standard equipment. For 6WA, the most connector goes to the main connector that goes into the head unit. Steddyman from the UK, had a 6WA with HU_ENTRY and his main connector also had the most optic cable as part of the connector. If you're going to NBT, you just plug it in and it will work.
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As far as I know it wouldn't cause any problems. IIRC, someone who had done the xenon retrofit took it in for service and they updated it, and it acted like he was supposed to have xenons, with the exception of an error he had been having already. So it seems as long as the option is FA coded, it would stay. |
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Yep I think they do. I noticed they did one last week at their Singapore Workshop.
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