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      07-04-2014, 12:38 PM   #1
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Lightbulb News: BMW 330i, 340i, 430i and 440i Coming with B48 and B58 Engines and LCI Refresh

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7/4/14 UPDATE
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All re-engined F3x models will get new designations:

Model name change for the re-engined F3x: 328i (N20) -> 330i (B48), 335i (N55) -> 340i (B58).

4-cyl B48 engine will have 330i/430i designation instead of 328i/428i
6-cyl B58 engine will have 340i/440i designation instead of 335i/435i.
PHEV F30 will come as 330e, not 328e.

I hope to have more detail on this development later.


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Some of you may remember me from the crazy bmw.com-sourced pre-prod info dump in early 2013. I found another source. It's very limited this time: just the model, engine, and transmission type, and lists not only the models that are guaranteed to come, but also all those that BMW considered as a possibility (for example, the list includes both RWD and xDrive, manual and auto US F31s). The list is exhaustive as of:

February 2014

(if a rumored vehicle is not on the list, it probably didn't exist as a finished engineering project at that time).

This post is updated every few months, with fresh info added and the officially announced vehicles removed.

FAQ:
Can you tell me when these models are coming out?
- Yes, see latest update.

Can you tell me which of these models will come to market, and which ones we'll never see?
- No.

What options will be available on these cars?
- No clue.

Can you tell me where you found this info?
- No.


This is just the US market, EU is simply too varied to type in all combinations.

F16:
- X6 35i, RWD and xDrive, N55B30M0, auto
- X6 50i, xDrive, N63B44O1, auto

F23:
- 228i, RWD and xDrive, N20B20O0 and N26B20O0, manual and auto
- M235i, RWD and xDrive, N55B30O0, manual and auto

F26:
- X4 28i, xDrive, N20B20O0, manual and auto
- X4 35i, xDrive, N55B30M0, manual and auto

F30 LCI:
- 320i, RWD and xDrive, B48B20M0, manual and auto
- 328i, RWD and xDrive, N20B20O0 and N26B20O0, manual and auto
- 335i, RWD and xDrive, B58B30M0, manual and auto
- 328d, RWD and xDrive, N47D20O1, manual and auto

F45:
- 220i, FWD, B48B20M0, manual and auto
- 225i, FWD and xDrive, B48B20O0 and B46B20O0, manual and auto

F48:
- X1 28i, xDrive, B48B20O0 and B46B20O0, manual and auto

F54 (4 door):
- Cooper Clubman, FWD, B36B20M0 and B38B20M0, manual and auto
- Cooper S Clubman, B46B20M0 and B48B20M0, manual and auto

F55 (5 door):
- Cooper, FWD, B36B15M0 and B38B15M0, manual and auto
- Cooper S, FWD, B48B20M0 and B46B20M0, manual and auto

F85:
- X5M, S63B44T2, xDrive, auto

F86:
- X6M, S63B44T2, xDrive, auto

G11:
- 750i, xDrive, N63B44O2, auto

G12:
- 740Li, RWD, B58B30M0, auto
- 750Li, xDrive, N63B44O2, auto

New engine:
- F15 X5 40e, xDrive, N20B20O0, auto

Dropped between March and September:
- F31 328d RWD
- F34 335i RWD

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12/31/13 UPDATE
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This is based on December information.

BMW is going to significantly expand their plug-in hybrid offerings, utilizing something that looks like a completely new powertrain. The following cars are listed now:

F45 223e SAT xDrive, manual and auto. There's a new engine code, XB2 1.49 M0. No idea what it is.
G11/G12 740e/740Le RWD, auto, engine XB1 1.99 O0
F30, 328e RWD, manual and auto, XB1 1.99 M0

New versions of the cars listed previously (again, this is US specific):

G11/G12 750i/750Li, RWD, auto
F48 X1 28i FWD, B46B20O0, manual and auto

New car:

F57 Mini Cooper Convertible, same models as F56 above.

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3/1/14 UPDATE
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Just one new model, but a pretty interesting one:

- X4 M40i, N55B30T0, manual and auto

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3/2/14 UPDATE
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- BMW M2, N55B30T0, manual and auto

(Yes, same engine as X4 M40i, so I'm guessing 350-360hp?)

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3/9/14 UPDATE
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The following list provides better future visibility, but should be taken with a grain of salt: its reliability hasn't been tested. I believe it's best to consider this as "BMW's best laid plans". Also, no transmission information is available. Again, this is US only data. PM if you need EU data. Confirmed or disproven info is marked accordingly.

F22 LCI SOP 07/16, EOP 10/20. Re-engine with B46B20O0 for 228i and B58B30M0 for M235i.
F23 - same as F22, but with EOP 10/21.

F30 320i and 335i LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 10/18. Re-engine with B48B20M0 for 320i and B58B30M0 for 335i. (But see 5/5/14 update below.)
F30 328i LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 06/16. LCI for F30 and F31 328i continues for one year with the old engine.
F30 328i LCI SOP 07/16 EOP 10/18. Re-engine with B48B20O0.
F30 328E LCI SOP 11/15, EOP 10/18. Introduction of 328E with XB1141M0, plug-in hybrid powertrain. Likely to replace 335iH (no LCI for it).
F30 328d LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 10/18. No new diesels for the US.
F31 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with EOP 06/19.
F32 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with SOP 03/16, EOP 06/20.
F33 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with SOP 03/16, EOP 10/20.
F34 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with SOP 07/16, EOP 03/20.
F36 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with SOP 03/16, EOP 02/21.

M3/M4 don't get LCI, will continue until EOP of the corresponding F3x body style.

X6 will start production in August, X5M/X6M - in December. Confirmed on 4/21/14

F45 225i B48A20O0, FWD and AWD, SOP 11/14 EOP 02/18 - FWD not coming, SOP 03/15 per BMW memo of 4/21/14
F45 220i B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, FWD, SOP 03/15, EOP 02/18 - confirmed 4/21/14
F45 225i B46A20O0, FWD, SOP 07/15 EOP 02/18 - FWD not coming 4/21/14

F48 X1 xDrive25i, B46A20O0 and B48A20O0, SOP 07/15 EOP 06/22
F48 X1 sDrive25i, B46A20O0, SOP 11/15 EOP 06/22

F54 Cooper Clubman, B36A15M0 and B38A15M0, SOP 07/15 (FWD) or 03/16 (AWD), EOP 06/22
F54 Cooper S Clubman, B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, same SOP/EOP
F54 Cooper S Clubman Diesel (final model designation TBD), FWD, B47C20O0

F55 Cooper, FWD, B36A15M0 and B38A15M0, SOP 07/14 EOP 06/21
F55 Cooper S, FWD, B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, same SOP/EOP

F56 JCW, B48A20O0, SOP 03/15 EOP 10/20

F57 Cooper Cabrio, FWD, B36A15M0 and B38A15M0, SOP 11/15 EOP 10/22
F57 Cooper S Cabrio, FWD, B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, same SOP/EOP
F57 Cooper JCW Cabrio, B48A20O0, SOP 03/16 EOP 10/22

EOPs for current models:

F01/02 - 06/15
F06 - 02/19
F07 - 06/17
F10 - 10/16
F12/13 - 10/18
F15 - 07/18 (to be replaced by LCI, not a completely new model)
F16 - 07/19
F25 - 07/17
F26 - 07/18

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5/5/14 UPDATE
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Production dates for M2:

EU/UK: 11/15 through 10/18
US: 3/16 through 10/18

Change of plans in regard to US 320i: it is possible the LCI will continue with N20.

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5/24/14 UPDATE
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I'm seeing more evidence that US 320i will not get the new B48 engine at LCI. So, F30 re-engine for the U.S. looks as follows:

320i - never
328i - MY2017
335i - MY2016

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6/24/14 UPDATE
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Production dates for X4 M40i: SOP 12/15, EOP 3/18.

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7/4/14 UPDATE
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Independence Day Special!

All re-engined F3x models will get new designations:

4-cyl B48 engine will have 330i/430i designation instead of 328i/428i
6-cyl B58 engine will have 340i/440i designation instead of 335i/435i.
PHEV F30 will come as 330e, not 328e.

I hope to have more detail on this development later.
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      07-09-2014, 09:33 AM   #2
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      07-09-2014, 09:35 AM   #3
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Lots of changes coming.
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      07-09-2014, 09:37 AM   #4
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Nice..i dont know why but i really like the 330 moniker..maybe good memories
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      07-09-2014, 09:38 AM   #5
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I hope this new motor won't make me regret having a 335
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Nice..i dont know why but i really like the 330 moniker..maybe good memories

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      07-09-2014, 09:41 AM   #7
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I posted the 330i/340i new designations for post-LCI last year... it was inevitable.
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      07-09-2014, 09:45 AM   #8
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330 bring it back to my e46 days!

340 because of Mercedes 4.0 offering in the new C class?????
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      07-09-2014, 09:46 AM   #9
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Will there be an M in front of any of those numbers I wonder...

Curious as to the expected power figures too

The 330i was always a butter smooth 6 cylinder and it's a bit weird to imagine that turbine being replaced with a turbo raspy 4 cylinder
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      07-09-2014, 09:48 AM   #10
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What? I'm confused...

So there will no longer be a 328i and 335i at all? There will just be 330i and 340i?

2nd question, isn't the N20 a brand new engine? Why are they already ditching it?

3rd question, is there any significance between the 'N' designator and the 'B' designator in the engine name?
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I posted the 330i/340i new designations for post-LCI last year... it was inevitable.
I think it makes some sense. Time to move on from the E90 transition and start acting like the F3X cars are the new normal.
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Outstanding information! Thanks for sharing.
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Aha. I suspected we might see this happen with the LCI and the new engines. I think Mercedes new names for the W205 offerings - C300 for the I4, C400 for the V6 - played a small role in this change too. You have to keep up with the competition.
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I thought they were bringing the N/A inline 6 back. You got my hopes up for no reason.
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only a matter of time before a 550i is powered by a 2.0 tri-turbo engine
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How much power will they really even up it? 20HP? 30? Cant get much closer to M cars so I can't imagine any of these being 330 to 335 levels of evolution. More EPA oriented I would imagine.
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Whats the difference between the new B58 and N55? Do we know yet?
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If the report is accurate I'm looking forward to increase performance and speed.
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Man id hate to be a BMW sales person. Lol. Having to remember each and everything about every vehicle. It'll make my head spin! Good stuff though! Loving all the innovations!
They don't know feces now, so it won't make a difference.
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only a matter of time before a 550i is powered by a 2.0 tri-turbo engine
I'll be surprised if there is a 550i in the next generation.
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What? I'm confused...

So there will no longer be a 328i and 335i at all? There will just be 330i and 340i?

2nd question, isn't the N20 a brand new engine? Why are they already ditching it?

3rd question, is there any significance between the 'N' designator and the 'B' designator in the engine name?
Why are they ditching the N20 already?

The N20 is based on BMW's N-series engine modular design, so while the configuration (4-cylinders) is new, the modular design on which it is based, is not. My interpretation is that the N20 was a stop-gap engine. BMW had to move away from the N52/N53 because its fuel economy and practical performance (read, low-end torque) were being outdone by competitors.

What's the difference between B and N?

Better specific output capability, lower emissions and better fuel economy. That I am aware of, BMW are not introducing any significant new technologies with this engine. Rather, it is an evolutionary step forward. I'm sure if I'm wrong about that one, someone will be along to correct me shortly
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Are these new engines are turbocharged?
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