Humming noise...

maverick83 · 06-28-2015, 08:45 AM

I have recently upgraded my 2014 320i to a 2014 320d with approx. 20k km. When driving at 60km/h there is a rough grinding/humming noise coming from what sounds like the front left wheel, up to about 80km/h this is audible and then dissapears if you go over 80km/h.

Funny thing is - when the vehicle is cold you don't hear it at all, but especially after a long highway drive, it seems harsher and louder.

Any thoughts? - Wheel-bearing perhaps?

X2 Monstah · 06-28-2015, 06:52 PM

I was experiencing the same issue. Believe it or not, it may be just wind noise. After listening to it on various roads, in various weather conditions, and letting it drive me nuts, I believe it is coming from the wind being buffeted between the A-pillar and driver's mirror. I could be wrong, but I determined it was worse on windier days, especially driving into the wind. Sounds like a weird diagnosis because the symptoms are very close to a bad wheel bearing.

carmo · 06-28-2015, 08:20 PM

I have this annoying sound as well! They changed some parts but that didn't help. Mine kicks in after 80km/h

carmo · 06-28-2015, 08:21 PM

You are not crazy I notice it more on windy days

maverick83 · 06-28-2015, 11:45 PM

Do you guys have M-Sport's as well? My Vanilla F30 320i was quiet as a mouse...

carmo · 06-28-2015, 11:57 PM

Plain 320 xdrive

maverick83 · 06-29-2015, 03:45 AM

So just came back from the local Wheel and Tire specialist - did not tell the guy the symptoms - just asked if he could please check the wheel balancing.

So he did - and came to me asking if I hear a noise that sounds like a shot wheel bearing!?

I then replied saying indeed! He then proceeded to tell me that its caused my "hard-driving and cornering" and the only way to fix it is to make sure wheel alignment is 100% and replace with new tires. I actually saw the result of his testing when he used something that draw's on the tire while it rotates, and you can clearly see where the lines don't "draw" on the tire.

So - wheels balanced and i just have to live with it until its time for new tires, they are probably 70%+ remaining, so not going to pay for the sound to dissapear... :-(

US$244 for one tire...

sam1985 · 07-23-2015, 12:57 PM

I had similar noise problem and used to hear similar type of noise from front side of car while driving (more while accelerating) and i wanted make sure if its tire/road noise.

Dealer checked and told all good and the only reason for the sound could be due to improper contact between tires and road. He told to rotate tires so you can shift noise to back and get wheel alignment. He literally said no other way to fix this problem and just have to live with it.

Can you suggest any better tire shops (for alignment) who does good work?

Thanks

maverick83 · 08-18-2015, 08:09 AM

So the issue got so bad I couldn't live with it any more.

Dealer gave me brand new Pirelli's and the noise is gone.

Now I have vibrating issues. Did balancing today and its not gone. Starting to regret my purchase.

To make matters worse, I was bumped into last week as well. New bumper.

maverick83 · 09-09-2015, 09:48 AM

Thought I'd update this... New bumper installed yesterday and got 4 brand new 19" mags and tires installed by the dealer today...

No noise and no vibration!!

Avian · 09-09-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick83

Thought I'd update this... New bumper installed yesterday and got 4 brand new 19" mags and tires installed by the dealer today...

No noise and no vibration!!

All's well that ends well hey?

rking117 · 09-10-2015, 09:53 AM

Very nice. Sometimes tires come out of round from the factory. In those cases nothing you can do will fix the vibrations you feel. On most cars the vibration isn't even noticeable but for BMWs you cant live with it. Pirelli has a 30 day money back guarantee on all their tires so keep that in mind. I hope that you at least got the P7s

RPM90 · 09-10-2015, 11:37 AM

If you can, tire rotation works wonders to keep performance up and wear and noise in check.
If you can't rotate, such as on staggered setups like mine, then you can do left/right swap, which also helps keeps noise down due to helping even out wear.
But, you can only do that with non directional tires, if you don't want to remount the tire to the wheel.

maverick83 · 09-10-2015, 12:23 PM

New tires are Bridgestone. Very impressed! Just had to get the pressures right, was waaaay over inflated.

timcan · 09-18-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BSM F30

I was experiencing the same issue. Believe it or not, it may be just wind noise. After listening to it on various roads, in various weather conditions, and letting it drive me nuts, I believe it is coming from the wind being buffeted between the A-pillar and driver's mirror. I could be wrong, but I determined it was worse on windier days, especially driving into the wind. Sounds like a weird diagnosis because the symptoms are very close to a bad wheel bearing.

I had similar issue at 82 mile an hour I had an oscillating vibration found this to be the plastic covering at the bottom of the windscreen on the left hand side. Managed to tie this down with a couple of cable ties and the noise went away

maverick83 · 11-11-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by timcan

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Originally Posted by BSM F30

I was experiencing the same issue. Believe it or not, it may be just wind noise. After listening to it on various roads, in various weather conditions, and letting it drive me nuts, I believe it is coming from the wind being buffeted between the A-pillar and driver's mirror. I could be wrong, but I determined it was worse on windier days, especially driving into the wind. Sounds like a weird diagnosis because the symptoms are very close to a bad wheel bearing.

I had similar issue at 82 mile an hour I had an oscillating vibration found this to be the plastic covering at the bottom of the windscreen on the left hand side. Managed to tie this down with a couple of cable ties and the noise went away

Please help... Where and how, which cover?

carmo · 11-11-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick83

Please help... Where and how, which cover?

I gotta do this too! Please any pics that would help? The wind noise is driving me nuts!

cracing · 11-11-2015, 07:42 PM

I have similar issues when the speed is between 110/km to 115/km. I thought was from the engine. Last week, changed to winter setup. Sounds disappeared.

maverick83 · 12-14-2015, 03:37 AM

Needless to say - the noise is back.

X2 Monstah · 12-14-2015, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick83

Needless to say - the noise is back.

Tires cupping, maybe?

RoundelM3 · 12-14-2015, 08:46 AM

Years ago there used to be places you could take a tire to make sure it was not out-of-round. They'd mount the wheel/tire on something similar to a balancing machine, check it for out-of-round, and shave off a small amount of tread to insure perfect roundness. This cured a vibration problem I had on a Porsche. Tires can develop flat spots as well as as the "cupping" phenomenon due to out-of-alignment, worn suspension, or even bent wheels.

maverick83 · 12-15-2015, 03:41 AM

Most likely cupping. But what is causing it... My knocking noise on the suspension is cause for concern as things are definitely feeling "loose" when going over small bumps and it wouldn't surprise me if its all connected.

Its the same old dreaded F30 knock... Hoping it will be fixed when collecting it today.

06-28-2015, 08:45 AM	#1
maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Humming noise... I have recently upgraded my 2014 320i to a 2014 320d with approx. 20k km. When driving at 60km/h there is a rough grinding/humming noise coming from what sounds like the front left wheel, up to about 80km/h this is audible and then dissapears if you go over 80km/h. Funny thing is - when the vehicle is cold you don't hear it at all, but especially after a long highway drive, it seems harsher and louder. Any thoughts? - Wheel-bearing perhaps?
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X2 Monstah Captain 301 Rep 718 Posts Drives: 2018 X2 XDrive 28i M Sport Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (1)	I was experiencing the same issue. Believe it or not, it may be just wind noise. After listening to it on various roads, in various weather conditions, and letting it drive me nuts, I believe it is coming from the wind being buffeted between the A-pillar and driver's mirror. I could be wrong, but I determined it was worse on windier days, especially driving into the wind. Sounds like a weird diagnosis because the symptoms are very close to a bad wheel bearing. __________________ Mine: 2019 Mini Cooper S / Moonwalk Grey / Black Interior Wife's: 2018 X2 XDrive 28i / MSport X / Mediterrean Blue / Mocha Dakota Leather Previous: 2008 E92; 2014 F30; 2016 F30 M Sport; 2011 E82 (Man I miss the 1er!)
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carmo Private First Class 25 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 2014 320i xdrive Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Montreal, QC iTrader: (0)	I have this annoying sound as well! They changed some parts but that didn't help. Mine kicks in after 80km/h
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carmo Private First Class 25 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 2014 320i xdrive Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Montreal, QC iTrader: (0)	You are not crazy I notice it more on windy days
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Do you guys have M-Sport's as well? My Vanilla F30 320i was quiet as a mouse...
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carmo Private First Class 25 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 2014 320i xdrive Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Montreal, QC iTrader: (0)	Plain 320 xdrive
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06-29-2015, 03:45 AM	#7
maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	So just came back from the local Wheel and Tire specialist - did not tell the guy the symptoms - just asked if he could please check the wheel balancing. So he did - and came to me asking if I hear a noise that sounds like a shot wheel bearing!? I then replied saying indeed! He then proceeded to tell me that its caused my "hard-driving and cornering" and the only way to fix it is to make sure wheel alignment is 100% and replace with new tires. I actually saw the result of his testing when he used something that draw's on the tire while it rotates, and you can clearly see where the lines don't "draw" on the tire. So - wheels balanced and i just have to live with it until its time for new tires, they are probably 70%+ remaining, so not going to pay for the sound to dissapear... :-( US$244 for one tire...
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sam1985 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 328i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: schaumburg iTrader: (0)	I had similar noise problem and used to hear similar type of noise from front side of car while driving (more while accelerating) and i wanted make sure if its tire/road noise. Dealer checked and told all good and the only reason for the sound could be due to improper contact between tires and road. He told to rotate tires so you can shift noise to back and get wheel alignment. He literally said no other way to fix this problem and just have to live with it. Can you suggest any better tire shops (for alignment) who does good work? Thanks
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	So the issue got so bad I couldn't live with it any more. Dealer gave me brand new Pirelli's and the noise is gone. Now I have vibrating issues. Did balancing today and its not gone. Starting to regret my purchase. To make matters worse, I was bumped into last week as well. New bumper. Attached Images
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Thought I'd update this... New bumper installed yesterday and got 4 brand new 19" mags and tires installed by the dealer today... No noise and no vibration!!
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09-10-2015, 09:53 AM	#12
rking117 Lieutenant Colonel 118 Rep 1,668 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i & 320i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Very nice. Sometimes tires come out of round from the factory. In those cases nothing you can do will fix the vibrations you feel. On most cars the vibration isn't even noticeable but for BMWs you cant live with it. Pirelli has a 30 day money back guarantee on all their tires so keep that in mind. I hope that you at least got the P7s __________________ Enjoying an E89 Z4, F30 320i and Fiat Abarth // E85 Z4 (sold), E82 128i (sold), Fiat Pop 500 (sold)
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RPM90 Major General 890 Rep 7,047 Posts Drives: 340i M-sport AT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	If you can, tire rotation works wonders to keep performance up and wear and noise in check. If you can't rotate, such as on staggered setups like mine, then you can do left/right swap, which also helps keeps noise down due to helping even out wear. But, you can only do that with non directional tires, if you don't want to remount the tire to the wheel.
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	New tires are Bridgestone. Very impressed! Just had to get the pressures right, was waaaay over inflated.
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cracing Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 235 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast iTrader: (0)	I have similar issues when the speed is between 110/km to 115/km. I thought was from the engine. Last week, changed to winter setup. Sounds disappeared. __________________ Current: 2015 F36 435 Xi GC ///M-Sport Retired: 2005 ACURA TSX A-SPEC Retired: 2003 ACURA RSX Retired: 2002 HONDA CIVIC 4 DR
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Needless to say - the noise is back.
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maverick83 Second Lieutenant 84 Rep 294 Posts Drives: F20 M135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Most likely cupping. But what is causing it... My knocking noise on the suspension is cause for concern as things are definitely feeling "loose" when going over small bumps and it wouldn't surprise me if its all connected. Its the same old dreaded F30 knock... Hoping it will be fixed when collecting it today.
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