Wheel hop fix?

Chicken_Joe · 09-29-2016, 12:13 PM

How do you guys cope with wheel hop? I don't normally dump the clutch on my car........ Usually because u end up smelling clutch due to stock clutch and e85 powaaaahhhh. However the wheel hop is really aggravating if I'm on a road with any kind of grip. Any advice other than the obvious....

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-29-2016, 01:55 PM

Aside from a differential lock down kit (available on the E9x chassis), you can start with upgrading the shocks.

It really depends on what is primarily causing the wheel hop but there is plenty of slop in the F3x chassis, between sub frame bushings, suspensions bushings, ETC ETC

Chicken_Joe · 09-29-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Aside from a differential lock down kit (available on the E9x chassis), you can start with upgrading the shocks.

It really depends on what is primarily causing the wheel hop but there is plenty of slop in the F3x chassis, between sub frame bushings, suspensions bushings, ETC ETC

I see. Wish someone would make some solutions for the F30

stxf30 · 09-29-2016, 10:21 PM

I got one...don't dump the clutch. Stop light drag racing or what?

What tires u running?

Chicken_Joe · 09-29-2016, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stxf30

I got one...don't dump the clutch. Stop light drag racing or what?

What tires u running?

I got one...If you would have read my post thoroughly then you would have seen that I don't normally dump my clutch smh. I don't stop light drag anything. I went to the drag strip and got stupid wheel hop with no burnout and waterbox wet tires. I run 255/35/19's BFG G Force.

stxf30 · 09-30-2016, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

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Originally Posted by stxf30

I got one...don't dump the clutch. Stop light drag racing or what?

What tires u running?

I got one...If you would have read my post thoroughly then you would have seen that I don't normally dump my clutch smh. I don't stop light drag anything. I went to the drag strip and got stupid wheel hop with no burnout and waterbox wet tires. I run 255/35/19's BFG G Force.

Dude, I was joking...

CIWS · 09-30-2016, 07:38 AM

So the F30 has the same size (diameter) half shafts ?

Chicken_Joe · 09-30-2016, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CIWS

So the F30 has the same size (diameter) half shafts ?

Not 100% sure on that one I would need to research it.

RoundelM3 · 10-01-2016, 11:33 AM

Limited-slip Diff and either Dinan Shockware (if you have dynamic suspension) or coilovers/better shocks if not.

Chicken_Joe · 10-01-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by roundel335

Limited-slip Diff and either Dinan Shockware (if you have dynamic suspension) or coilovers/better shocks if not.

I was planning on getting the shockware if I can manage it

Polo08816 · 03-23-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

I was planning on getting the shockware if I can manage it

Were you able to resolve your wheel hop issue with a LSD and suspension modifications?

donkey · 03-23-2017, 11:25 AM

Sub'd

anrec330 · 03-23-2017, 03:23 PM

Same issue here. If I dump the clutch it'll just light the tires up instantly. If I slip it a bit I get wheel hop. Running MPSS 275 on the rears with stock clutch.

FBO with E85 here also.

mr_kay · 03-23-2017, 08:37 PM

FYI I just saw a diff lock down kit for f chassis on the n54tech FS forum today. Didn't look too much into which f chassis it fits though. Was $150 I believe.

enjoythemusic · 03-24-2017, 05:40 AM

Lots of power and open diff sounds like the problem. Am sure you know you need a limited slip to help get power to the ground.

mbanks21 · 03-24-2017, 07:36 AM

Same problem here. I thought it was my tires but it sounds like even with topline tires it's happening. I'm FBO/E85

Polo08816 · 03-24-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Same problem here. I thought it was my tires but it sounds like even with topline tires it's happening. I'm FBO/E85

Open diff?

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Lots of power and open diff sounds like the problem. Am sure you know you need a limited slip to help get power to the ground.

mbanks21 · 03-24-2017, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo08816

Open diff?

Yep

Polo08816 · 03-24-2017, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Yep

Sounds like a commonality for wheel hop - open diff.

Chicken_Joe · 03-24-2017, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo08816

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

I was planning on getting the shockware if I can manage it

Were you able to resolve your wheel hop issue with a LSD and suspension modifications?

Unfortunately I don't have an LSD aggravatingly enough. I feel like the M Sports should come with an LSD stock and have the option to remove it if the buyer wanted as a no charge option from the factory.

enjoythemusic · 03-24-2017, 11:22 AM

Agree the Ltd Slip Diff should have been std, or at least an option you can check off when ordering the car. Had wheel hop with open diff in the 2014 435i. So.... just had the M LSD installed and it is easy to feel the difference. Am still breaking it in (for a total of 500 miles) so am not getting too aggressive, yet can easily feel the improvement. The car rotates MUCH better in the twisties and putting power down is far easier with no wheel hop. With the LSD it is easier to have the car 'properly' oversteer rather than hop.

You really need the Ltd Slip Diff when you start making some good power and drive the car.

JMHO YMMV

09-29-2016, 12:13 PM	#1
Chicken_Joe Lieutenant Colonel 606 Rep 1,782 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 335i M Sport. EB 6M Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Frontenac, Missouri iTrader: (3)	How do you guys cope with wheel hop? I don't normally dump the clutch on my car........ Usually because u end up smelling clutch due to stock clutch and e85 powaaaahhhh. However the wheel hop is really aggravating if I'm on a road with any kind of grip. Any advice other than the obvious.... __________________ 13' 335i M Sport. EBII/Coral Red 6MT. RPI GT exhaust, Resonator delete, PS1, GFB DV , BM3 Stage 2, ER CP, VRSF DP, VRSF 5.5in Stepped FMIC, Dinan Shockware. Carbon M Performance rear diffuser. M4 trunk lip. Conti DWS06 225/40/19 and 255/35/19
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Aside from a differential lock down kit (available on the E9x chassis), you can start with upgrading the shocks. It really depends on what is primarily causing the wheel hop but there is plenty of slop in the F3x chassis, between sub frame bushings, suspensions bushings, ETC ETC
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stxf30 First Lieutenant 94 Rep 389 Posts Drives: '13 F30 335i MSport Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335i MSport [9.00]	I got one...don't dump the clutch. Stop light drag racing or what? What tires u running? __________________ 2013 GSM 335i MSport
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CIWS Moon Parasite 655 Rep 1,336 Posts Drives: F98 X4M Competition Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	So the F30 has the same size (diameter) half shafts ? __________________ 2020 X4M Comp. (currently stock) - Was 2015 335 MSport -MPPK -Borla ATAK -Dinan Sport+ - E.R. Charge pipe / 2013 X1 35i Sport - Dinan tune / 2009 X6 50i Dinan badged
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anrec330 Private First Class 43 Rep 100 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Same issue here. If I dump the clutch it'll just light the tires up instantly. If I slip it a bit I get wheel hop. Running MPSS 275 on the rears with stock clutch. FBO with E85 here also.
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mr_kay First Lieutenant 126 Rep 367 Posts Drives: F30 335i Join Date: May 2014 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	FYI I just saw a diff lock down kit for f chassis on the n54tech FS forum today. Didn't look too much into which f chassis it fits though. Was $150 I believe.
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enjoythemusic Captain 364 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 435i Dinan Stage 4 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Lots of power and open diff sounds like the problem. Am sure you know you need a limited slip to help get power to the ground. __________________ Enjoy the Drive, Steven 2014 435i M-Opt, M LSD, Dinan CAI/IC/BTurbo/Stage 4, ER TIC/CP, GFB DV+, Fabspeed HJS cat DP & Mich PS4S.
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mbanks21 Colonel 1268 Rep 2,957 Posts Drives: 2015 335i MSport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: High Bridge, NJ iTrader: (8)	Same problem here. I thought it was my tires but it sounds like even with topline tires it's happening. I'm FBO/E85 __________________ 2015 335i Msport/6 JB4/EWG/E30/VRSF DP/ER CP/ VRSF Race Exhaust/ Injen Intake/Verde Axis 19x8.5/9.5 245/35/275/30 Conti Extreme CS/ H&R Sports / Motorsport Hardware Stud Conversion
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enjoythemusic Captain 364 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 435i Dinan Stage 4 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Agree the Ltd Slip Diff should have been std, or at least an option you can check off when ordering the car. Had wheel hop with open diff in the 2014 435i. So.... just had the M LSD installed and it is easy to feel the difference. Am still breaking it in (for a total of 500 miles) so am not getting too aggressive, yet can easily feel the improvement. The car rotates MUCH better in the twisties and putting power down is far easier with no wheel hop. With the LSD it is easier to have the car 'properly' oversteer rather than hop. You really need the Ltd Slip Diff when you start making some good power and drive the car. JMHO YMMV __________________ Enjoy the Drive, Steven 2014 435i M-Opt, M LSD, Dinan CAI/IC/BTurbo/Stage 4, ER TIC/CP, GFB DV+, Fabspeed HJS cat DP & Mich PS4S.
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