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      09-01-2017, 03:38 PM   #1
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F1 2017: GRAN PREMIO HEINEKEN D'ITALIA Round 13

Fri 1 September Sun 3 September 2017 GRAN PREMIO HEINEKEN D'ITALIA



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Fri 1 September Sun 3 September 2017

Practice 1 Fri 10:00 (Local)| Fri 4:00 AM EST | Fri 1:00 AM PST

Practice 2 Fri 14:00 (Local)| Fri 8:00 AM EST | Fri 5:00 AM PST

Practice 3 Sat 11:00 (Local)| Sat 5:00 AM EST | Sat 2:00 AM PST

Qualifying Sat 14:00 (Local)| Sat 8:00 AM EST | Sat 5:00 AM PST NBCSN

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Both RBRs (Danny and Max) plus Alonso starting from the back of the grid Sunday due to excessive use of engine part penalties - this is getting ridiculous
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Both RBRs (Danny and Max) plus Alonso starting from the back of the grid Sunday due to excessive use of engine part penalties - this is getting ridiculous
They need to change these rules. I understand that they don't want excessive engine changes throughout the season, but this is unnecessary. Fans want to see competition.
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Both RBRs (Danny and Max) plus Alonso starting from the back of the grid Sunday due to excessive use of engine part penalties - this is getting ridiculous
It's ridiculous that they are limited to 4 power units per year with 20+ races per season now. I can appreciate they are trying to push the envelope with everything, which includes reliability, but to perform the hundreds of miles at each weekend between practices, quail and the race itself five times is more than a tad much. I think they should raise it to 7 allotted cause 3 races per power unit seems reasonable to me.
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I don't mind the idea of penalties but making them so severe is ridiculous, especially when top drivers are starting from the back of the pack.

A flat 2 or 3 grid spot penalty from whatever position you quality should be sufficient enough to keep the top teams at bay a bit. At least so they don't take advantage too much.
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Rain is the great equalizer. Lewis still the quickest man on the grid. Bottas not getting all the speed out of the car again in quali.
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Let us hope for MAX it rains tomorrow

But the Monza weather forcast is no rain and 25 Celsius => https://www.accuweather.com/en/it/mo...orecast/214047
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Let us hope for MAX it rains tomorrow

But the Monza weather forcast is no rain and 25 Celsius => https://www.accuweather.com/en/it/mo...orecast/214047
Such a shame. We definitely need a wet race tomorrow.
With Max and Danny starting from the back and Lance and Ocon doing crazy stuff up front.

Btw: whether you're fan or not: Lewis, what a boss.
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Such a shame. We definitely need a wet race tomorrow.
With Max and Danny starting from the back and Lance and Ocon doing crazy stuff up front.

Btw: whether you're fan or not: Lewis, what a boss.
Yeah MAX was already 6 races out in this season , and of course he's really disappointed .

HAM is a great driver , but it's for sure he has the best car as well . But honestly I really hate him for his arrogance !

We need rain ASAP for MAX , wished the race was today .
Tomorrow the sun is in the Monza skies..while MAX needs to start from the back and so the podium is out of sight .

I believe in nothing . But I would pray for rain !
Maybe for tropical rain in Singapore ?
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Excellent Qualifying session! Rain made it way more interesting, and what a line up for the race tomorrow! Top man HAM does it on the last lap..

Should be an interesting race!
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My 90 minute extension on the quali recording wasn't enough. Bummer.
No kidding! I set mine for two and half hours and didn't even get to the restart! What a bummer!!
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HAM is a great driver , but it's for sure he has the best car as well .
1.1 sec over Max in second and 2.2 sec over Bottas in the same car. The guy is a quali monster.
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1.1 sec over Max in second and 2.2 sec over Bottas in the same car. The guy is a quali monster.
I know. But keep in mind that the Mercs topspeed is 15 km/h faster in the straights .
Within one hour we will see the start . Think the race will be boring when we know the startgrid front row...
I'm pretty sure the race spectacle will come from behind , and Max actually deserves Bottas seat .
But that would be a problem for HAM ...
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Ugh, dreadfully boring race. Watched the first 20 laps then just fast forwarded through the rest. Yawn.
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Ugh, dreadfully boring race. Watched the first 20 laps then just fast forwarded through the rest. Yawn.
I think you're right.
Stupid regulations were at least partly to blame because without those dumbass grid penalties Danny and Max would have mounted a serious challenge.
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Snooze fest for sure. That crowd sure looks awesome for Ferrari though, and it was only a third place.
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... keep in mind that the Mercs topspeed is 15 km/h faster in the straights .
Not sure where you are getting 15 km/h, but certainly not the speed trap numbers, or race maximum speeds as reported by the FIA.

Qualifying (http://www.fia.com/file/61083/download?token=M1i4oakA)
#2 Hamilton 326.6
#3 Ricciardo 326.3
#7 Bottas 323.8
#9 Verstappen 318.4

Race (http://www.fia.com/file/61180/download?token=hBRntwMJ)
#3 Ricciardo 355.2
#4 Verstappen 353.0
#10 Bottas 348.4
#18 Hamilton 342.2

Race Max Speeds (http://www.fia.com/file/61174/download?token=wXhFRrZS)

Int 1:
#1 Verstappen 338.7
#5 Ricciardo 332.6
#9 Hamilton 326.0
#13 Bottas 325.1

Int 2:
#5 Hamilton 338.8
#6 Verstappen 338.6
#11 Bottas 336.0
#12 Ricciardo 334.4

Finish:
#2 Bottas 319.4
#3 Verstappen 319.0
#5 Ricciardo 318.3
#9 Hamilton 316.9
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^ I can gather this from the above.

No Honda powered car recorded max speed in any of the sessions this weekend. lol

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