F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > No 6MT in G20 M340i, so tempted to look at an F30
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-25-2017, 04:35 PM   #23
Billfitz
Brigadier General
United_States
925
Rep
3,409
Posts

Drives: '15 328iX GT
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: New Hampshire

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NWest View Post
"bean counters"= Bavarian overlords.
I thought it was either a German heavy metal band or a dominatrix bordello in Munich.
Appreciate 1
      11-25-2017, 04:36 PM   #24
Beek
Captain
Beek's Avatar
United_States
273
Rep
766
Posts

Drives: Most folks crazy.
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: The Twin Cities

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer456 View Post
Maybe it's the 5 series, but it sounded like on the Scott bmw Smith review of the x3 m40i that it was making more
Scott was probably confused, I know I'd have a hard time keeping my facts straight with Trish hanging around.
__________________
'16 340xi Mineral Grey, Black Dakota Leather and Ash/Pearl trim, MPSS on 18" 398 Orbit Grey wheels, ZF 8HP50, MPPSK + CF Tips, ZTR, ZMP, ZTP, ZCW, ZDA, ZDB, Black Kidney Grilles.
Winter setup: WS80's on 18' BBS SR wheels. '09 Outback for a beater and grocery getter.
Appreciate 0
      11-25-2017, 09:13 PM   #25
paul e
Lieutenant
United_States
211
Rep
569
Posts

Drives: 340i xDrive 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: South Carolina

iTrader: (0)

Not a good move if true, they own the market now by offering the manual, for those who want one. It’s why I bought my car.
Appreciate 0
      11-26-2017, 02:50 AM   #26
eluded
2JZ-GTE
eluded's Avatar
Bulgaria
622
Rep
1,939
Posts

Drives: 340 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Sofia

iTrader: (0)

The rumors of no more manual are just rumors at the moment.

If they lose their manual transmission there are truly no more four-door cars left with manuals. You're left with that Subaru thing and?????
Appreciate 0
      11-26-2017, 07:10 AM   #27
bimmer456
Lieutenant Colonel
328
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by eluded View Post
The rumors of no more manual are just rumors at the moment.

If they lose their manual transmission there are truly no more four-door cars left with manuals. You're left with that Subaru thing and?????
Civic SI lol
Appreciate 1
      11-26-2017, 09:42 AM   #28
eluded
2JZ-GTE
eluded's Avatar
Bulgaria
622
Rep
1,939
Posts

Drives: 340 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Sofia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer456 View Post

Civic SI lol

Gti
Appreciate 1
      11-26-2017, 04:10 PM   #29
otay
Captain
otay's Avatar
United_States
277
Rep
903
Posts

Drives: 2014 335i Sport Line
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Raleigh, NC

iTrader: (0)

No auto per ynguldyn
http://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1442627

I'm thinking the same as Cammy5 and might not wait much longer. If I go this route, I'll order with MPPSK for sure.
Appreciate 0
      11-26-2017, 10:04 PM   #30
kadify
Lieutenant
104
Rep
515
Posts

Drives: 428i xDrive GC
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by eluded View Post
The rumors of no more manual are just rumors at the moment.

If they lose their manual transmission there are truly no more four-door cars left with manuals. You're left with that Subaru thing and?????
I think the s4 is coming to America with a manual for the 2019 model year. Not positive but I thought I read that somewhere.
Appreciate 0
      11-27-2017, 01:22 AM   #31
Climb Mode
Private First Class
Climb Mode's Avatar
49
Rep
165
Posts

Drives: MY2017 340i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kadify View Post
I think the s4 is coming to America with a manual for the 2019 model year. Not positive but I thought I read that somewhere.
Hope you're right.
Appreciate 0
      11-27-2017, 02:39 AM   #32
zamboni
I want to drive a Zamboni
zamboni's Avatar
United_States
211
Rep
4,207
Posts

Drives: 13 E93 M3 18 F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Monte Sereno, CA

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2018 F80 M3  [0.00]
2013 BMW E93 M3  [0.00]
Audi is moving away from MT good luck getting the S4 with 6MT.
__________________
18 F80 M3 Black Sapphire 6MT
16 K71 F800GT Montego Blue
13 E93 M3 Melbourne Red
2000 E46 ( Sold ) 2006 E90 ( sold ) 09 E82 Space Gray ( sold ) 14 F30 335i ( sold )
My next vehicle would be a Zamboni
Appreciate 0
      11-27-2017, 08:37 AM   #33
anotheran
Sedan Driver
Canada
87
Rep
407
Posts

Drives: A nice car
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

if the canadian market is any indication, manual will be limited to the 340i while 330i and 320i only have autos.

that would make more sense in my eyes as you force manual buyers to have to pay more to cover the costs of government testing the manual.
__________________
I subscribe to ASD OFF because I like to hear real engine sounds

BMW Athletics Soft Shell Jacket | DTM Motorsport Team Cap| BMW M Drift Cat 5 | BMW M Thermo Mug
Appreciate 0
      11-27-2017, 09:17 AM   #34
bimmer456
Lieutenant Colonel
328
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by anotheran View Post
if the canadian market is any indication, manual will be limited to the 340i while 330i and 320i only have autos.

that would make more sense in my eyes as you force manual buyers to have to pay more to cover the costs of government testing the manual.
Here in the states the manual is the same price as auto. You would think enthusiast buyers who want a drivers car also would want more power rather than pushing them to the lower power lower margain cars. The only reason I can see is that they are higher volume.
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2017, 05:33 AM   #35
upsidedownfunnel
Second Lieutenant
United_States
60
Rep
200
Posts

Drives: 2014 335i Sport 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Irvine, CA

iTrader: (0)

This is super frustrating because if I'd known that the G20 was auto only, I would have bought a new manual F30 340i. I bought my car CPO just to hold out for the G20.

Oh well. It doesn't look like there are many choices left for manual sport sedans.
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2017, 09:21 AM   #36
Blubaron79
Brigadier General
Blubaron79's Avatar
United_States
473
Rep
3,827
Posts

Drives: '15 335 XDrive
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zamboni View Post
Audi is moving away from MT good luck getting the S4 with 6MT.
Not even offered at all in the S4. I think the C43 also is auto only.
__________________
'15 335 XDrive: Glacier Silver, MSport, 19's, every option (except ACC and DAP), MPPK, MPE, black grille, splitter, side sills, CF Spoiler, clear bra.
Previous: '14 435 F32 xDrive; '09 335 E92 xDrive
Appreciate 1
      11-29-2017, 09:28 AM   #37
chaungo
=D
chaungo's Avatar
Canada
547
Rep
1,522
Posts

Drives: 13' 335ix
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Quebec

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blubaron79 View Post
Not even offered at all in the S4. I think the C43 also is auto only.
Audi and Mercedes completely dropped the manual for all their cars. I believe Audi's last manual made was around 4-5 years ago for their S4.
__________________
2013 335i xDrive
Bootmod3 S2, Pure Stage 2, Pure Inlet, GFB DV+, ER CP/TIC CP, ER Catless DP, CTS Turbo FMIC, Borla ATAK, Dinan Springs, Dinan Shockware
Appreciate 1
      11-29-2017, 10:23 AM   #38
MacklinUSOB
Private First Class
United_States
30
Rep
101
Posts

Drives: f30 328i 6MT Sport
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Connecticut

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaungo View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blubaron79 View Post
Not even offered at all in the S4. I think the C43 also is auto only.
Audi and Mercedes completely dropped the manual for all their cars. I believe Audi's last manual made was around 4-5 years ago for their S4.
They've definitely been phasing them out of their lineup since then. I have two friends with 2014 A5s, both of which are manual. My buddy says he would be switching to our team when he upgrades, specifically so he can get a manual, so hopefully they're still around.

I do recall seeing a BMW engineer say that manuals would still be around for some time to come, but I'm not sure if that applies to M only or not.
__________________
Add 5 horsepower for every M logo
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2017, 10:35 AM   #39
JRocker3
Private
JRocker3's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
75
Posts

Drives: 2018 F30 340i
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

I just bought an '18 340i 6MT for fear of the G20 not having a manual. No regrets. The G20 will no doubt be faster and have more tech... but the 6MT is a must and I hate uncertainty.
__________________
2011 E90 335xi /// 2018 F30 340i
      11-29-2017, 10:41 AM   #40
YuminNuman
Private
28
Rep
82
Posts

Drives: 2017 340i AWD+6MT
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

I said the other day this will probably be the last MT car I buy. I might be in this thing for 10 years or so. Get it while it still exists... all these 'auto is faster so it's better' people are ruining everything for us. Driving is nothing more than sitting in a chair.
Appreciate 2
      11-29-2017, 10:55 AM   #41
chaungo
=D
chaungo's Avatar
Canada
547
Rep
1,522
Posts

Drives: 13' 335ix
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Quebec

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuminNuman View Post
I said the other day this will probably be the last MT car I buy. I might be in this thing for 10 years or so. Get it while it still exists... all these 'auto is faster so it's better' people are ruining everything for us. Driving is nothing more than sitting in a chair.
It's technology to be honest, it keeps advancing and people have to adapt. Sure you can buy older cars nowadays with a manual, but soon they'll require more emission and safety checks etc...

If people don't buy manual, they won't make it. It's that simple, you can't force people to drive something they don't want to drive and buy something they don't want with their money. If you think driving is nothing more than sitting in a chair with a transmission, then you're driving wrong. It seems to me you're only driving the car for the transmission and not for the car. No matter which transmission you have, you should be enjoying how the car handles, how the torque throws you in the seat, how your engine and exhaust and turbo screams as you go up the RPMs.

It's not all about the transmission. You should go and try to sit in someone's GT3RS or something like that for a track day or even backroads. You'll be too busy trying not to die or keeping your eyes on the road to worry about the transmission, I had the chance to do so, and the car is scary as hell especially when the owner was telling me "oh you can go faster and brake later than that" when I'm used to braking earlier with my car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacklinUSOB View Post
They've definitely been phasing them out of their lineup since then. I have two friends with 2014 A5s, both of which are manual. My buddy says he would be switching to our team when he upgrades, specifically so he can get a manual, so hopefully they're still around.

I do recall seeing a BMW engineer say that manuals would still be around for some time to come, but I'm not sure if that applies to M only or not.
I believe it only applies to M cars, especially M3/M4. They have always had a manual option and I don't believe they'll remove it for that car. However the normal 3-4-5-6-7 series (330i/340i etc..) will probably lose manual as it's more directed to the general population of "entry affordable luxury cars"

I think the 2 series will probably keep the manual as it's more or less the sporty compact coupe.
__________________
2013 335i xDrive
Bootmod3 S2, Pure Stage 2, Pure Inlet, GFB DV+, ER CP/TIC CP, ER Catless DP, CTS Turbo FMIC, Borla ATAK, Dinan Springs, Dinan Shockware
Appreciate 2
      11-29-2017, 11:27 AM   #42
NWest
Private First Class
NWest's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: 2015 335xi
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaungo View Post
Audi and Mercedes completely dropped the manual for all their cars. I believe Audi's last manual made was around 4-5 years ago for their S4.
Not dead yet. Audi USA still offers a manual in the A4 for the 2018 model year. They actually redesigned it in 2017.

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-a4/performance

https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/new...l-transmission

Having options is a good thing. I am under no illusions that i'm in the minority, I still enjoy driving a manual over an auto, and I'll continue to buy one as long as I can get one.
__________________
6MT | MPE | JB4 | ER CP | CTS FMIC | Bilstein B14
Appreciate 2
      11-29-2017, 11:31 AM   #43
AudiA4
Major
AudiA4's Avatar
347
Rep
1,392
Posts

Drives: 2014 335i (EB) 6MT, M Sport
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Little Rock, AR, USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by eluded View Post
The rumors of no more manual are just rumors at the moment.

If they lose their manual transmission there are truly no more four-door cars left with manuals. You're left with that Subaru thing and?????
Honda Accord...the NEW Honda Accord offers a MANUAL in BOTH models (both engine options). It's a sad day when Honda has to be the one carrying on the enthusiast choice and not BMW.

p.s. Also, the Cadillac ATS and the Audi A4 still offer manuals...
__________________
2014 F30 335i (EB) 6MT, M Sport, Premium, Tech, DHP, HK, CW, M Brakes, M Exhaust

2006 E90 330i (Silver) 6MT, Sport
Appreciate 2
      11-29-2017, 12:07 PM   #44
zamboni
I want to drive a Zamboni
zamboni's Avatar
United_States
211
Rep
4,207
Posts

Drives: 13 E93 M3 18 F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Monte Sereno, CA

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2018 F80 M3  [0.00]
2013 BMW E93 M3  [0.00]
The new M5 did not offers MT and came with 8 spds auto tranny not DCT, seem like every MFG is phasing out the MT and going with auto version.
Get the MT from BMW while it last.
__________________
18 F80 M3 Black Sapphire 6MT
16 K71 F800GT Montego Blue
13 E93 M3 Melbourne Red
2000 E46 ( Sold ) 2006 E90 ( sold ) 09 E82 Space Gray ( sold ) 14 F30 335i ( sold )
My next vehicle would be a Zamboni
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:45 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST