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      01-10-2009, 01:53 PM   #67
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its an E90 with the covers on it so u cant see any changes they may have made

those are probably old pictures of an LCI, thus the reason the tailights are covered up, and u can tell the fender flares are just stuck on, not gonna happen...
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its an E90 with the covers on it so u cant see any changes they may have made

those are probably old pictures of an LCI, thus the reason the tailights are covered up, and u can tell the fender flares are just stuck on, not gonna happen...

Yet another peson that doesn't get it
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      01-10-2009, 02:35 PM   #69
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These are purported to be pics of a very early test mule for the next generation BMW 3-series (F30). If true, the modifications to an E90 body are likely for chassis testing only, but hint that the F30 3-series will have a wider (and perhaps longer) wheelbase. Expect the actual final sheet metal to be different, of course. The F30 3-series is expected in 2012.

And please, please don't make posts such as "it's hideous." If this is truly a test mule, it's only undergoing chassis testing and what you see here is not at all indicative of what the F30 will resemble. This was only posted because it would be an interesting bit of news to know that the next generation 3-series is already undergoing testing.
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For the reason Jason explicitly stated in the original post.

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what the fuck is the point of this thread if we cant speculate about the look of the vehicle in these pictures. We sure as shit aint getting information about whats different under the panels.


also, if they make the current 3 any bigger I will be going for a 1 or another brand of vehicle come 2012
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These are purported to be pics of a very early test mule for the next generation BMW 3-series (F30). If true, the modifications to an E90 body are likely for chassis testing only, but hint that the F30 3-series will have a wider (and perhaps longer) wheelbase. Expect the actual final sheet metal to be different, of course. The F30 3-series is expected in 2012.

And please, please don't make posts such as "it's hideous." If this is truly a test mule, it's only undergoing chassis testing and what you see here is not at all indicative of what the F30 will resemble. This was only posted because it would be an interesting bit of news to know that the next generation 3-series is already undergoing testing.
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here's what I think.

-its obvious after looking at the new audi a4, BMW is definetly goin to make the 3 series larger... They did so from the last gen anyway. So it's expected. Wider is as well... there are times I just look at my e90 in the front.. and i'm not sooo so pleased, i just wish it were wider.. even the new m3 e90/e92.. i wish their fenders were wider!

-this could be the s-drive version.

-an actually FACE LIFT might actually come... or finally make it look like the e92? lol smh.


oh and i agree, for the f of it, they should put blacklines on their models, no one will really know. Everyone who is unfamiliar with the e90 or not from e90post thinks I smoked my tail lights anyway SMDH.

It's okay to say what u think might happen, cuz we all don't know. Please dont say its hideous.. its just obvious what it is.. if u even think of typing that it's hideous please delete your account from e90post and kindly proceed to kicking rocks.
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the only reasonable reply to this thread can be "wow, they are already testing the F30, cool" or "damn, again it's gonna be bigger and fatter car - where is the 3 series going" --- not speculating on how it looks based on the FACKING MULE. AAAAAAAA, this is so sad in here.
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There are more critics of people's responses to the test mule's looks then there are critics of the test mules looks. That's what's sad.

Either way, the wheel base looks too long now (like an iL model) and they're making the car bigger in a time when nobody WANTS a bigger 3 series. :thumbsdown: to BMW for that!
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M-tech wide body kit? lol
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My guess is that the final product with sheet metal will be as radical a change as the E90 when it was first introduced.

Isn't the next gen 1, introduced as the same time/year later, also expected to step up in size? With pricing continuing to rise, I would not be surprised if many present 3 owners step down to the 1 in 2012, especially if it becomes more 3-like.
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I think by the time 2012 rolls around, we'll need a BMW 0.75er to have something that isn't a boat.
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My first reaction - it's an Audi A4 crossed with a Mazda RX8. Don't really care for it as is. Then again I don't really care for the pre-LCI E90 either.
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wow the rear is ugle as heck!!!!!
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My first reaction - it's an Audi A4 crossed with a Mazda RX8. Don't really care for it as is. Then again I don't really care for the pre-LCI E90 either.
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(should i really bother replying to this?)
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wow the rear is ugle as heck!!!!!


This isn't the body of the F30 3 series at all! Read the OP's post, these pics only posted to show that the next generation 3er is already under chassis testing. Interesting news to me at least.
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The E90 is already nearly the size of the E34 5er. If they keep growing as speculated by these mule photos, I'm definately:

1) Going to need a bigger garage, or
2) Going for a 1 Series
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The severe lack of reading comprehension in this thread is frightening, but based off of how most of the members type in the forums, I suppose I can't say I'm truly surprised. When the entire nation as a whole no longer gives two sh*ts about correctly speaking, writing, and understanding their own f*cking language, it's only a matter of time before we plummet into another dark age.

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Anyway, back on topic. Has anyone else noticed that the track of the new chassis is significantly smaller than what the faux-fenders would suggest? My guess is that the track for the F30 would only be 1-1.5" wider than the current E90 (@ 59.1"), which would come pretty close to the current E60 (@ 61.3"), but not quite match it. Didn't notice too much in terms of the wheelspan though, so maybe the car won't be quite as long as some would suggest. Don't expect the F30 to get smaller though, as BMW needs to further differentiate their 3-series from their 1-series.

I just hope that with the increased dimensions, BMW exercises more extensive use of lightweight alloys when possible to help offset the weight of the already somewhat heavy E9x series, especially now that fuel economy is on the forefront of many peoples' minds (except for perhaps the past few months). And with CAFE standards dictating average fleet MPG to go from 31-35 from 2011-2020, that falls right into effect during the F30 life cycle.

But on the positive end, the wider track could mean even better handling (provided weight doesn't go unchecked).
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There are more critics of people's responses to the test mule's looks then there are critics of the test mules looks. That's what's sad.

Either way, the wheel base looks too long now (like an iL model) and they're making the car bigger in a time when nobody WANTS a bigger 3 series. :thumbsdown: to BMW for that!
+1 Bigger does not = better to me. Hence why I got the E82 and rid of my E92. The cars are just too big--that small, nimble feeling is being washed away.

The E46/82 is about as big as I would ever want. Sigh.....
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It still has those hideous front lights and the milk mustache above the kidney grilles ...I'm gonna say, "NO"
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It still has those hideous front lights and the milk mustache above the kidney grilles ...I'm gonna say, "NO"
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I'm gonna say "learn to read".
And I'm gonna say, "sorry, can't do ...I just look at the pics and then shoot from the hip"
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is it me or do these pics look like the ones in 2005 for the e90? That doesn't look new at all.
its just u
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