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      11-17-2015, 12:11 AM   #1
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Can someone explain to me why we should take even one syrian refugee

Obama is forcing now 250,000 refugees to come in to the US. Why?
Problems with this:
1. Every security official and law enforcement official says there's no way to vet them. Zero. The only discenter to this the deputy director of Homeland Security. He doesn't explain how you verify a young man with no papers, nothing, that he is or isn't an Islamic radical.
2. ISIS used the refugee migration to invade Europe. One of the terrorists in Paris was a refugee.
3. ISIS has vowed they will do this specifically and that Washington DC is on the hit list.
4. Merkel says the integration of even the peaceful so far refugees into Germany has been disastrous.

Why would he want this?
Only reason I can possibly think is that like his executive order on illegal aliens, he wants to stuff the Democrat ballot boxes by importing votes, in this case 0.1% of the US population who will undoubtedly vote democratic as a result. Considering all the elections since '88 were decided by about 1%or less popular vote, this and the illegal alien act and buying votes with food stamps, etc, his plan is to try to hold democrats in power.

However,:
1. the vast majority of the US population is against this
2. This is dangerous to the US in so many ways
3. We owe these people nothing
4. There are alternatives he won't explore
5. These people will cost hundreds of billions of dollars to care for

Think about that. The cost to take care of these people will be the same or more than the Iraq war. 4,000 soldiers died in Iraq. If ISIS can smuggle in 0.1% of the refugees, that's 250 terrorists. 8 terrorists did Paris. 126 dead. How many could 250 kill? Coordinated simultaneous suicide bombings at every NFL stadium on sunday? Major buildings in DC?
Disney? Space Center? NYC? Etc etc etc.

Set up a safe zone. Arm the kurds to police it. Use air power to defend it. Etc.

Then kill the problem. Set up a coalition with euros and friendly sun countries, egypt, jordan, saudi, and have those countries be the permanent occupying force. These refugees are sunni.

This sucks in so many ways. There is bipartisan support against it. Is there any way to stop it?
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I've got nothing.. I do know we certainly don't want them here in Nevada
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Couldn't say. It seems like a really terrible idea. Only thing I can think of is people are thinking of the European jewish situation prior to WWII where the USA refused most of the would-be emigrants, and want to "do the right thing" this time. Not a good idea, and definitely not the right thing either.
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There is no reasonable answer. The probable answer is international pressure or a necessary step to maintain the impression of the "good guy" to advance other less popular initiatives such as drone strikes or the like.
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We should have stopped Hitler in 35 but we didn't. AND the nazi weren't trying to kill Americans when the jews were trying to come here. They were trying to make the US am Allie. They weren't even killing the jews at that point. Just being mean to them.
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Why not kill the cause of the problem instead, this only spreads the problem. Instead of fighting them there we'll be fighting them here also.
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26 states have said no refugees. All but one has a republican.governor. If you have a Democrat governor, you're probably going to have 10,000 Syrians in your cities in a year or so, taking your jobs, using up your tax money. Good luck with that.
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No wonder grade schools are teaching our 4th graders how to say Salaam-Alaikum and not about the revolution, civil war, or any other war.
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Write to your officials and bitch, but more importantly ask others to do the same. You can even give them form letters since most people who might care won't want to take the effort to write something. You can also have them call. That's about as good as you can get these days. Thankfully, I live in Texas.
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Good news for Texas and my state, Florida, is our governors said no. Bad news, Obama doesn't care and is trying to go around the governors. They asked every mayor of every major city, in Florida I know at least, how many they can take.
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Why would it be so partisan among the governors? Votes?
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Why would it be so partisan among the governors? Votes?
Votes, and you don't want Obama's Chicago politics machine against you. Look how that's working out for Hillary.
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I think it will badly backfire. Especially when, not if, one of these isis guys gets in here and murders. The backlash will be tremendous.
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I hate to say it, but they're probably scheming to use the inevitable shitstorm to take away more of our civil liberties and stir up the war machine. I mean, how else can this possibly make sense?
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Take away the guns?
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No, probably not take away the guns, but take away things like whatever 4th amendment rights we have left, more restrictions on freedom of speech / assembly, things like that. Guns haven't really scared the government for at least 50 years, it's just a dumb political issue pandering to people who get scared by them. The amount of force the government can project is so disproportionate that Tom Dick and Harry with their Glocks don't even matter when push comes to shove.
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Here is 500 pounds of MM's....about a quarter million.

250 of them, if you eat one of them, will kill you, your family and a few other random people.

You going to dig in, snack a bit, and play the odds or pass?

Sorry but we need immigrants who plan on assimilating and don't represent an instant drag on the economy, much less a possible invasionary force no matter how slight.

That isn't racist as I would apply the same factors to any color, creed, race or religion.
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Here is 500 pounds of MM's....about a quarter million.

250 of them, if you eat one of them, will kill you, your family and a few other random people.

You going to dig in, snack a bit, and play the odds or pass?

Sorry but we need immigrants who plan on assimilating and don't represent an instant drag on the economy, much less a possible invasionary force no matter how slight.

That isn't racist as I would apply the same factors to any color, creed, race or religion.

Nice reality math. Nice 1st post.

That needs to be on billboards.
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Daddy Obama wants to follow the golden rule and not be mean to them. Don't call the "terrorists" islamic, even though the first "i" in ISIS is islamic. Until we elect republican whosetheirface as president we must be good little Americans and invite them over to our houses to play..250,000 of them. Forget worrying about learning buenos dias. Start working on salam-amalakum.
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Because liberals said we had to. If one of the refugee turns into a terrorists and shoots up the place then they will blame guns and that we did not provide them with enough economic support (handouts). We got enough welfare recipients here as it is, why the fuck should we take on more?

I believe that anyone who preaches on taking on these people should:
1. house some of them at their home
2. pay higher taxes in order to support them
If you are not willing to put your money where your mouth is then fuck off and stop telling the rest of us what we should do. This is not about being racists, it's about self-preservation.

I'm shocked but glad that NJ said no..
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Cause you have a Republican governor. Most of NY and NJ are republican. It's just NYC and Phili cesspool areas 5hat drag them down into liberalism.
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To answer the original question, it is being a decent human being and caring for your fellow man.
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