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      08-05-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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No more RFT please...or at least make it optional

Please no more RFTs on the next 3 series or make it as an option.
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This is the 2000th thread on this subject on multiple boards and regarding multiple vehicles (3er, 5er, etc). While some people like the RFTs, most enthusiasts don't and at least wish BMW would make them optional (or make GFTs optional). Don't hold your breath. This is one where BMW has chosen NOT to listen to their enthusiast base.
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Please no more RFTs on the next 3 series or make it as an option.
Why? They are like the best thing EVER invented, saved my ass a couple times already!

Plus, order your car in Germany. There is a nice extra charge for runflat tires!

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Plus, order your car in Germany. There is a nice extra charge for runflat tires!

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Why are runflats extra in Germany? Are non-runflats standard?
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Why are runflats extra in Germany? Are non-runflats standard?
Runflats were designed for those who are elderly or had handicaps so that they would not have to get out and change a tire. I believe that is why they are an option and not standard. I believe Bridgestone cut BMW an awesome deal to make RFT's standard in the US since we are the biggest market in the world for BMW. Reality many stick with OEM tires so getting them on a car coming out of the factory is essential to stimulating future sales at full retail prices.
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Runflats were designed for those who are elderly or had handicaps so that they would not have to get out and change a tire.
I HIGHLY doubt this - it's just another instance of making an everyday thing more convenient - just like nearly every other aspect of cars. They don't come on every car because they are expensive and are considered by many (ie non enthusiast buying public) to be a luxury or premium option. Considering most people drive around on all-seasons, they probably would be
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They don't come on every car because they are expensive and are considered by many (ie non enthusiast buying public) to be a luxury or premium option.
This. Not having to pull over on the side of the highway to change a flat is a huge convenience for most people, they would rather be able to drive straight to the dealer/repair shop instead. BMW can tout this as a safety feature as well. I don't see run flats going anywhere, at least for now.
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if anyone wants to trade their RFT with my Nnon RFT, let me know.. I like them
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And if I upgrade to the larger rims, atleast let me get a set off all seasons..... I know I'll get crap for this, but some of us live in odd climates.
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Fine, be stubborn BMW and leave the runflats, but dont get rid of the hole in the trunk for a spare!
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Runflats were designed for those who are elderly or had handicaps so that they would not have to get out and change a tire. I believe that is why they are an option and not standard. I believe Bridgestone cut BMW an awesome deal to make RFT's standard in the US since we are the biggest market in the world for BMW. Reality many stick with OEM tires so getting them on a car coming out of the factory is essential to stimulating future sales at full retail prices.
Even if your capable of changing your tire - what are you going to change it with, even without runflats, there is no room for a spare in the car, so at best you will get what the M3 has, a can of fix a flat and a 12V air compressor. I would prefer non-runflats if the car had an actual compact spare, but would rather have the run-flats if all I get is a can of fix-a-flat!
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If runflats are optional in Germany?

Does that mean the cars there come with a spare and a place to put it?
If so is there a way to retrofit the spare space in a US car to accept a spare?
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And if I upgrade to the larger rims, atleast let me get a set off all seasons..... I know I'll get crap for this, but some of us live in odd climates.
AS RF tires?


There are all season 19 inch tires? Toyo and Continental. I had the Toyo's, and they suck in snow.
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I frankly don't care either way which tires come with the car. Give us a spare and let the consumer decide about RF tires.
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I actually like the RFTs. It's nice to know that you will always get home.
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OK, if they are going to force us into RFTs - at least give us a wheel well under the trunk to put a full sized spare if we choose to use non-RFTs or for winter tires.
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      08-22-2010, 09:47 PM   #20
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The PS2 runflats for the 18" wheel sizes are actually very impressive.

When I bought my 335i, coming from a 06 Volvo s60r and 08 M3 sedan with non runflats, my plan was to change the 335i to non runflats as well and buy a m mobility kit and chance it like on the M3.

However, my car came with the PS2 runflats which rode and handled so good (none of the skittering over uneven pavement and crashing over small bumps like bridgeston RFTs) I stuck with the PS2 RFTs.

Unfortunately the PS2 are just as expensive as the bridgestone RFTs . But the ease of not having to pull over on the side of a busy highway during rush hour to pump seal a flat gunk into my car or worse, waiting a hour for a tow truck definitely is worth something for me.

Before I tried the PS2 RFTs, I would be all for BMW decreasing the already small e90 trunk to make room for a spacesaver spare but now I am not so sure.
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Runflats are horrible, they do make the car a hassle just to drive.
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I am still relatively new to RFTs in terms of my experience with them, but so far I don't like them so far as handling - tramlining, jittery and often hard ride. Not so worried about the hard ride, but the tramlining and jittery part I can't stand. Then if one of the tyres goes flat from a nail or similar object, which is more often the case, most tyre repair centres won't repair the tyre because they prefer to assume that you have driven on the deflated tyre. And having a space-saver spare doesn't always change this though - so you end up having to replace the tyre instead of patching it. The having no proper space for a spare wheel in the boot is the most silly thing though... So what is worse? Sitting on the side of the road at night with a can of goo trying to fix a RFT in candle light, or reaching into the boot and finding a spare wheel?

Something I am curious about though with regards to driving on a deflated RFT tyre - the tyre is designed to run against the wheel rim with the inner part of the rim protector on the tyre, this surely must cause a fair amount of scuffing??

I would say BMW should rather offer RTFs as an option with a normal spare wheel (or even space-saver) under the boot mat. But I have a feeling that's not going to happen...

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