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      11-09-2011, 07:33 PM   #23
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the whole line thing is a fail- just wait until those modern line cars with Oyster dashes and steering wheels but with black leather arrive and people start thinking "whhaaaaaa?" it's pretty cool to have a black interior with say red or brown or oyster seats and door inserts. it's even okay if the interior were like dark grey with black seats and inserts, but an interior as light in color as oyster with black seats and door inserts.......in the words of lee corso... NOT SO FAST!
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Since this is NEW options, maybe it's in addition to the already familiar packages? As in, perhaps the Sport/Modern/Luxury have different options exclusive to them (key fobs, dash/steering wheel colors, wheels etc) but traditional sport and premium packages are offered with all color options? Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part...
don't think so because if the traditional packages- especially sport were going to be available- you'd think that would make this press release, or at least I would think that.
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It's pretty shitty that you can only get black or beige without getting a "line" or that you can only get saddle with the luxury line.
These are not the only options! The Lines are only pre-configured trim levels that will be offered for less than if you created the combo yourself. This is how they'll be in stock at a dealer to make buying off the lot easier. There will still be a Standard trim level and you'll be able to order whatever exterior/interior trim combinations and packages/options that you want, just like now.
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These are not the only options! The Lines are only pre-configured trim levels that will be offered for less than if you created the combo yourself. This is how they'll be in stock at a dealer to make buying off the lot easier. There will still be a Standard trim level and you'll be able to order whatever exterior/interior trim combinations and packages/options that you want, just like now.
SOMEONE LISTEN TO THIS MAN!!

As we said in our F30 Lines Guide:

First and foremost, these lines are not the only 3 cars we can choose from. A 3-Series can be ordered as is and optioned how you want to option it, just as has always been with a BMW. These 3 "Lines" are just extra options on top of what is normally offered. I tend to think of them as just an extra package, akin to a sports package, except that the package contains many more stylistic elements. Another way to think of them would be a pre-packaged BMW Individual car.
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      11-09-2011, 07:52 PM   #27
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Can someone answer this... Will the new 3 come with LED tails?
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Can someone answer this... Will the new 3 come with LED tails?
ANSWER: NO (unfortunately)

even on the "Modern" line its still old skool bulbs ... irony at its finest
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Can someone answer this... Will the new 3 come with LED tails?
I guess like always, anything is possible the dealer will just say...

"Show me the money"

and he will get you anything you want if not some one out there will design a modification ...
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      11-09-2011, 08:40 PM   #33
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Brake energy regeneration!?
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What is brake energy regeneration?
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Make use of every watt: by charging the battery only when your BMW is braking, coasting or decelerating, Brake Energy Regeneration improves fuel efficiency by up to three percent and ensures that the full power of your engine is available for acceleration.

Today's vehicles require much more electrical energy than older models, due to the much wider array of electric and electronic on-board comfort and safety systems. This energy is created by the generator (also known as the alternator) which converts the engine's power output into electricity. In conventional systems, the generator is permanently driven by a belt connected to the engine.
BMW's Brake Energy Regeneration operates differently: the generator is activated only when you take your foot from the accelerator or apply the brake. The kinetic energy that would otherwise go to waste is now used efficiently, converted into electricity by the generator and stored in the battery.
Producing electricity in this highly efficient way delivers an additional advantage: when you apply the accelerator, the generator is deactivated - so the full power of the engine can be directed to the drive wheels. Brake Energy Regeneration thus increases fuel efficiency while simultaneously enhancing driving dynamics. As a safety precaution, the Brake Energy Regeneration system monitors the level of battery charge and will, if necessary, continue to charge the battery even during acceleration to prevent a complete discharging of the battery.

Even more intensive is the use of freed-up kinetic energy in vehicles with electric motors, like the BMW ActiveHybrid models or the BMW ActiveE with fully-electric drive system. In this case, the motor serves as a generator and produces electricity as soon as the driver takes his foot off the accelerator. This principle increases the range of the BMW ActiveE by up to 20 percent.
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SOMEONE LISTEN TO THIS MAN!!

As we said in our F30 Lines Guide:

First and foremost, these lines are not the only 3 cars we can choose from. A 3-Series can be ordered as is and optioned how you want to option it, just as has always been with a BMW. These 3 "Lines" are just extra options on top of what is normally offered. I tend to think of them as just an extra package, akin to a sports package, except that the package contains many more stylistic elements. Another way to think of them would be a pre-packaged BMW Individual car.
Jason, will we be able to individually spec the different kidney grills, headliner color, dash color, wheels, bumper strips, key fobs, etc that are included in the lines without spec'ing one of the lines (i.e. mix and match what is included in the lines)?

I think that is the key question. If not I suspect that decision is going to leave a bad taste for a lot of the people on this board as the diehards that really want to customize their cars are going to be forced into the slots of the three lines and basically choose which stereotype of lemming they are.

I get that it will work and be good for the masses who buy off lots, but my guess is a lot of people on these boards are thinking/hoping for a BMW Individual type experience without the extra cost!

Side note... very disappointed that power (and memory) steering column is not an option on the new 3'er. My wife and I like the size of the 3 but would like to have all the luxury features. This is a really nice one for us as my wife is 5'4" and I am 6'1". Ventilated seats would also be nice as a previous poster noted. We just bought a 2011 Cayenne Turbo with this option and they are fantastic!
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Jason, will we be able to individually spec the different kidney grills, headliner color, dash color, wheels, bumper strips, key fobs, etc that are included in the lines without spec'ing one of the lines (i.e. mix and match what is included in the lines)?

I think that is the key question. If not I suspect that decision is going to leave a bad taste for a lot of the people on this board as the diehards that really want to customize their cars are going to be forced into the slots of the three lines and basically choose which stereotype of lemming they are.

I get that it will work and be good for the masses who buy off lots, but my guess is a lot of people on these boards are thinking/hoping for a BMW Individual type experience without the extra cost!

Side note... very disappointed that power (and memory) steering column is not an option on the new 3'er. My wife and I like the size of the 3 but would like to have all the luxury features. This is a really nice one for us as my wife is 5'4" and I am 6'1". Ventilated seats would also be nice as a previous poster noted. We just bought a 2011 Cayenne Turbo with this option and they are fantastic!
Just read the separate post on the lines and see that they can not be mixed and matched. Boo.
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Are the corona ring LED lights available as an option on the 328????
I'd wager they will be. They were an option on the E90 328i.
They should make xenon adaptive headlights standard on all models. That's like one of BMW's signature looks.
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Hope the price is lower than the e90.
hahahaha, we can all hope
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so does the sport line replace the sports package?
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it looks like, judging from the auto show pictures, that all of the seats across the lines will have the thigh supports. If that's the case I'll take the luxury line. Looks more classic than the others and I really like the multi-spoke 18's. I'd rather have the matte chrome of the modern line though
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saw this bulletin come down the pipeline last night....I like what i see so far....now for the pricing..
I agree... Pricing... I'm curious to see if any of the three lines will be cheaper than a base with the options added on separately, or will it be more expensive simply because of a few stupid chrome accents and "sport" identifiers.

I do like what I see though, so I shouldn't be so jaded.

I am especially excited about standard floor mats and upgraded wheel sizes. It shows an adaptation to the times. Good to see, but again, will it be true savings or will the price reflect it?

Definitely waiting for the M-sport though, if I don't decide on the 135i.
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I think this is a very smart move. It essentially eliminates cars that are piecemeal styles and gives the sport models they're own designation (M-sport, ///M, etc.). I feel that it gives the owner some "pride," and "ownership" of a specific model the M-sport and ///M owners enjoy so much!

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