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      12-06-2011, 09:29 PM   #1
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In summary: "The 3-series is the remarkable, standout car in its field, and by several lengths over the C-class"



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No surprise there

thanks for posting!
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Looks like the Audi is underpowered too compared to the BMW and MB, with not too much advantage in gas mileage and emissions especially compared to the BMW. Note the 100kg lower weight for the BMW compared to the Mercedes!
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      12-06-2011, 10:38 PM   #4
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nice review.. Does MB have a new C class in pipeline any time soon?
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nice review.. Does MB have a new C class in pipeline any time soon?
prob not 2-3 years, they just did an lci
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wow, well there you go.
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Wow no comparison, insane mpg too! 37mpg?! WTF, this engine is coming to the states correct?
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prob not 2-3 years, they just did an lci
So basically, only at it's end of life will the C-Class be better than outgoing 3-Series.
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Wow no comparison, insane mpg too! 37mpg?! WTF, this engine is coming to the states correct?
This review is in a British car magazine and they use Imperial gallons which is equal to 1.201 US gallons. In other words, not the same.
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Wow no comparison, insane mpg too! 37mpg?! WTF, this engine is coming to the states correct?
Isn't it 64 mpg?
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wow matched the diminishes of a E39... anyways not surprised the F30 beat the C class
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BMW have tapped into this by mirroring typical BMW dynamics and steering communication within the new UKL cars.
You mean massive body roll, a steering system that is not connected to the front wheels, and the engine note played through the speaker system?!?!?!?!
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So basically, only at it's end of life will the C-Class be better than outgoing 3-Series.
I find it hard to believe a c class will be better than a comparable 3 sereis., at least it has not ever been better imo. and i have driven W203 and W204. The W203 was a big pos. The 204 is nicer but cant deliver half the driving pleasure a bmw does for me. imo
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That must be a bit depressing if you just bought a Mercedes.
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well its back to drawing board for Merc it seems. personally I think it would take another 7 years for a car to better F30 and that would be the next gen 3 series. got to feel sorry for Merc. message from BMW is that don't F.U.C.K with us
Well we all know what infinti will do. They will put a 400hp engine in their 6 ton G-sedan and claim they have the better car.
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thankfully we don't see many of those on our roads in europe
Lucky, short of Cadillac I think the are the ugliest ugliest cars in this segment.
Its like can you possibly wisp the tail lights any farther over the fenders. That and they are extremely overweight.
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yea, no comparison, that's why MB is making their premium package standard.

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What's up with the mirror image for the f30 on the cover? Somewhat noticeable when the driver switches sides...
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That must be a bit depressing if you just bought a Mercedes.
not really. Im looking at the c250 and the e90 328 (both have amazing lease deals currently) for my DD/beater. Im most likely going to go with the c250. Drove both. C250 was def. less sporty but felt more comfy and soft (i want that in NYC traffic). And i liked the C250 interior better. BUT if i was getting the f30 it would be hard to say no. Unfortunately i doubt the f30 will lease this cheap when it releases. And the 1M and S2000 are more than enough for my fun cars.
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nice review.. Does MB have a new C class in pipeline any time soon?
soon (probably 3 more years). it looks damn good as well. (I was in a paid MB focus group where they actually showed the physical prototypes to us. to be honest, it looks way better than the F30.)
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not really. Im looking at the c250 and the e90 328 (both have amazing lease deals currently) for my DD/beater. Im most likely going to go with the c250. Drove both. C250 was def. less sporty but felt more comfy and soft (i want that in NYC traffic). And i liked the C250 interior better. BUT if i was getting the f30 it would be hard to say no. Unfortunately i doubt the f30 will lease this cheap when it releases. And the 1M and S2000 are more than enough for my fun cars.
This has always been the case. You want comfy, go with the Mercedes. I'm glad that BMW really took a step in this direction while maintaing the sporty image, I think it was necessary. But at the same time, Mercedes has stepped up with the driving aspects. The W202 and W203 were extremely DULL to drive, you were not connected at all with the car but the W204 got a lot better. It's unfortunate that the next C-Class will come out well after the F30 3-Series has established itself, doesn't make for the best comparisons.
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I'm glad BMW is making its sporty cars more comfortable, too. My 135i with sports suspension is a lot of fun but even after getting rid of the runflats, it still has a terrible ride.

Two of my friends have W204 C classes (one luxury and one sport) and I'm really jealous of how comfortable they are for long drives. My daily commute is ~30 miles in each direction on the freeway and usually in moderate traffic.

I could never live with a W204, it's comfy but way too boring, so it looks like the F30 strikes up a very interesting compromise.

I disagree on the W203 vs W204 comment, though, I thought the later W203 sport sedans were a lot more fun to drive than either W204 but no generation of C class has been able to meet the benchmark set by the 3 series IMO.
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