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      08-28-2015, 11:35 AM   #1
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Ok, yeah i know this topc has been beat to death. I get it! However throughout my searching I didnt find everything I needed to know in one post so I figured I would try to consolidate what I learned into one post with pictures.

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Problem:
Doors will creak when body flexes over uneven pavement. It sounds similar to a creaky hardwood floor.

Covered Under Warranty Right?
Yes i know this would have been covered under warranty, however I dont have any BMW dealerships I trust within an hour of where I live. My time is much more valuable than the $15 I spent on parts to fix the issue myself. BMW has recognized this to be an issue.

What You Need
BMW uses their own part number if you take it them. I've found that unless you have $200 to burn, it makes sense to just get a $7 roll of the same product off Amazon without the BMW packaging. Here is a link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00 Make sure you have some scissors too.

Theory Of The Fix:
For those of you new to the issue, the problem is NVH related. The surface of the door will rub against the surface of the trim when the body flexes causing a creaking sound. If the material makeup of the trim was soft, we wouldnt hear the movement. The tape I referenced above makes the surface of the trim feel like soft plastic. When the door rubs up against it during body flex there is no noise. Other "fixes" such as seal conditioners, vaseline, caranuba wax attempt to do the same thing, reduce the friction between the door and the trim.

Installation:
This part was pretty straightforward. From the research that I had previously done there were two schools of thought. Apply the tape to the hard door seal in between the felt strip and the rubber weather stripping or apply it to the black trim directly. For the rear doors I chose to apply it to both since thats where 99% of the noise was coming from. On the front doors, i simply covered the gloss black trim since thats the main source of the noise. I would recommend that you pay special attention when taping the gloss black trim. You will need to make sure that you back the tape up under the lip of the trim and get it as close to the body as possible. If you dont, you'll see the tape when you close the door. Not very aesthetically pleasing. In hindsight, I wish i would have had a thin blunt plastic knife to help tuck the tape in the crease between the trim and the body, thats just me being OCD though. You may also choose to cut the tape into sections instead of one long piece. It makes it easier to install. If you use your tape wisely and only cover the black trim, one roll of tape should suffice. If you want to cover the doors and have a little extra just in case, i'd recommend picking up two rolls. The stuff is cheap so why not.

Thoughts\Observations:
My initial impression after driving the car was WOW! I gotta admit, i was skeptical that a little tape was gonna fix the issue but so far it has. There are certain sections of road that will make the car creak every time. After I applied the tape, it was dead silent. Part of me is outraged that BMW, a premium luxury brand cant make a car without NVH issues, but the other part of me is happy that I was able to resolve the issue for under $20 without going to the dealer.
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      08-28-2015, 12:24 PM   #2
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Nice! Thanks for sharing this! Going to give this a try. I have some creaking on my front passenger door.
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I'll be giving this a try soon. I've been holding out until my car is due for its service from the dealer in November, but I'm growing impatient. Thanks for the post!
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Nice! Thanks for sharing this! Going to give this a try. I have some creaking on my front passenger door.
Hey its my pleasure, I had great luck with it! Just take your time and it'll turn out great.
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      08-28-2015, 01:39 PM   #5
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I'll be giving this a try soon. I've been holding out until my car is due for its service from the dealer in November, but I'm growing impatient. Thanks for the post!
Hey I'm right there with you! If I trusted a local dealer i may have been more inclined to run it by the service dept. However, most service departments don't really care about solving NVH issues. Seems like if it doesn't throw a code, they don't care about fixing it. It woulda cost me at least 3-4 hours of my time driving and fighting with the dealer to get this resolved. This fix cost me all of $15 and 45 minutes of my time
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Never had this issue that a simple wax of the shadowline trim didnt resolve. Hell simple going over with Spray Detail fixes it for me. Wash your damn cars
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I just use sealant every few months to stop the creaking entirely (Black Diamond). It's invisible unlike the tape. I don't even want to see the tape when I open my doors! Plus it will pull up at the corners eventually.
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silicon spray solves it.. apply once a month and you are good to go
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Never had this issue that a simple wax of the shadowline trim didnt resolve. Hell simple going over with Spray Detail fixes it for me. Wash your damn cars
Hey man, my car is a week old and squeaky clean! Literally
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I just use sealant every few months to stop the creaking entirely (Black Diamond). It's invisible unlike the tape. I don't even want to see the tape when I open my doors! Plus it will pull up at the corners eventually.
I read about using a sealant, but i wanted a fix that was somewhat permanent. I wont have to redo the tape every few months. This fix isn't for everybody, however its alot cheaper than buying the BMW official "tape" and wasting time going in\out of the dealer.
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silicon spray solves it.. apply once a month and you are good to go
I read about the silicon spray, i heard it is bad for the seals. I was looking for a fix that didn't need to be repeated on a short interval. Otherwise i would have used the sprays, polishes, sealants, etc.
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Have you read my post regarding teflon tape that was installed at dealer? I posted pictures and everything else I could a year ago.
It was the best solution for the noise.
Mine came back after exactly a year later, and had it re-done. Back to feeling solid now.
Could you please update if it ever comes back? So we all know/predict how it goes over time. I updated mine when it came back. You put it basically the same spot where the dealer did. Gotta say, Good Job!
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Mine windows were squeak and dealer installed teflon tape is not solved the problem turn out the driver door is out of alignment.
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Have you read my post regarding teflon tape that was installed at dealer? I posted pictures and everything else I could a year ago.
It was the best solution for the noise.
Mine came back after exactly a year later, and had it re-done. Back to feeling solid now.
Could you please update if it ever comes back? So we all know/predict how it goes over time. I updated mine when it came back. You put it basically the same spot where the dealer did. Gotta say, Good Job!
That sucks that it came back, i ended up redoing mine a few days ago because i stretched it too much and it started coming up around the curves. My solution was to cut it into 6 inch sections and apply it that way. I also completely removed the tape from the rubber door seal, after doing some research and talking to a family friend who is a BMW tech, I didnt feel it was necessary. Everything still sounds silent and the tape is still stuck to the trim
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Only way to keep it away is regularly cleaning the felt on top of the door.
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Only way to keep it away is regularly cleaning the felt on top of the door.
I wouldn't say it's the only way, the tape solution worked great for me.
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I noticed after I treated my seals with McGuirs cleaner/conditioner it started creaking a LOT....I thought it was just the seals being lubricated...guess not...
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That sucks that it came back, i ended up redoing mine a few days ago because i stretched it too much and it started coming up around the curves. My solution was to cut it into 6 inch sections and apply it that way. I also completely removed the tape from the rubber door seal, after doing some research and talking to a family friend who is a BMW tech, I didnt feel it was necessary. Everything still sounds silent and the tape is still stuck to the trim
Maybe try the 1/2" tape. It's easier to bend around curves. I applied it in one piece, and it has enough coverage to stop the creaking on my X3. Might also work for the F30.
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Only way to keep it away is regularly cleaning the felt on top of the door.
I wouldn't say it's the only way, the tape solution worked great for me.
Sure. I have the tape also... But after cleaning - with water only - the felt it stays squeak free for much longer
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That sucks that it came back, i ended up redoing mine a few days ago because i stretched it too much and it started coming up around the curves. My solution was to cut it into 6 inch sections and apply it that way. I also completely removed the tape from the rubber door seal, after doing some research and talking to a family friend who is a BMW tech, I didnt feel it was necessary. Everything still sounds silent and the tape is still stuck to the trim
Great to hear! keep us updated!
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Great to hear! keep us updated!
Still dead quiet, I actually like the results better the second time around. Looks good, and there is no noise regardless of what kind of road im going over.
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And its still quiet, haven't had to modify a thing...
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