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My business operates on the poor sides of town and hires mostly people from the same group. Some of our customers have government subsidies to pay for the service we provide as well. We regularly hire employees that quit after a few days and heres why "well if i work i dont get to collect the same welfare benifits, and i dont like waking up early" this happens pretty regularly. The same happens with our customers. To qualify they have to work or go to school. We have them drop out of our service and say they "didnt like having to work" or "i didnt like waking up early" obviously this happens far more regularly than our employees quitting after a day. your right many women and children are on welfare. But i will tell you for damn sure that these people dont mind living on welfare. Some do ,but many just dont care. P.s. this happens. Im not making it up. Its not hypothetical. It happens in real life. What the hell is a "welfare type programs" that business is the main collector of (love the use of the word corporation instead of business btw)? you do know that last i heard 55% of Obama's 2008 campaign donations are from wallstreet... Last edited by txz4; 02-25-2012 at 03:39 PM. |
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What type of "service" do you provide? If you're hiring low-educated folks who earn low wages, a high attrition rate is simply indicative of that natured job. You think Dominos pizza isn't hiring people every other freaking week? The days of being on public assistance indefinitely are long gone. Even for those on unemployment, for that matter. One has to have record of looking for employment and there is a better accountability in place. The measly benefits these folks receive isn't worth the energy it takes to qualify for them. I don't discredit your anecdotes but, that doesn't represent the community at large. Sorry. And as an employer who authorizes some of these benefits, I'd say it's your duty to report such blatant fraud.
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People have demonized gov't assistance when it's packaged differently and accessible to the undesireables but, welfare represents a broader scope than simply food stamps and section 8.
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Basically...lower ALL taxes to 15%...end all subsidies...end all deduction...take away the ability of the government to pick winners and losers...severely penalize non-compliance...watch the economy grow like you have never seen P.S....I love it when people (especially politicians) that know next to nothing welfare talk about welfare.... good stuff....lol
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Waste, fraud & abuse.... Many people can't articulate what they really dislike about government assistance programs. What it comes down to is waste, fraud & abuse. You'll be hard pressed to find an American citizen who doesn't fell compelled to help someone who is truly in need. But when you have first hand experience such as Txz4 with this growing subculture you get very frustrated with anything that looks or smells like a government assistance program.
The scary part, we've very close to having generations grow up in this subculture of government assisted living and that's all they are going to know. It's going to / is becoming, a normal way of life for many. Eliminate the waste, fraud and abuse and many people will be very happy with government assisted programs. But at the the current time there are pennies possibly fractions of pennies of each dollar of our taxes that are allocated to these programs that are actually getting to the recipients. And a large percentage of those recipients are gaining access to these funds in a fraudulent manner or through a blatantly large loop hole in the system. It's got much less to do with those taking advantage of the government assistant programs than it does with the poorly designed & managed programs.
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Hyperbole much? You really need to articulate ways in which these recipients are exploiting these loopholes. All of these personal anecdotes that really don't amount to much measurable evidence against these people shouldn't be taken so seriously. Lazy people exist across all economic levels. These folks can't shake the stigma. I believe this fuels most people's contempt for these services. I don't see how receiving a few hundred a month in monopoly money is the perfect formula for a good life. And being regulated to living in section-8 squalor amongst other poor folks really eliminates your notion that these folks are getting over somehow.
Gov't assistance is not a new phenomenon. If you want to get technical, the opening of Ellis Island was a source of US Gov't assistance, no? |
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