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      02-21-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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h/k upgrade in F30 - any detailed info?

The BMW website barely says poop about the upgraded audio option. Does anyone have a link to more info on the h/k system and its specs? Thanks!
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600 watts, 16 speakers.
2 subs 7 tweeters 7 mids
Sounds great, i got it.
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It is a great system. I tested a 335i that had it and a 328i without it. Its not a deal breaker but sure is nice to have.
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I have the 2009 335i Upgraded speakers which are not Harmon. I got the Harmen system on my F30 and i hope its good im a DJ and sound is very important to me. My current 335 sound Sucks!!!!!!!
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I test drove an F30 with the upgrade, but I couldn't find all 16... I know there's subs under the seats, but where are they?!
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The BMW website barely says poop about the upgraded audio option. Does anyone have a link to more info on the h/k system and its specs? Thanks!
Have you seen this? Hope it helps: http://bmw.harmankardon.com/en/vehicles/model03/
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Have you seen this? Hope it helps: http://bmw.harmankardon.com/en/vehicles/model03/
Great find thanks, here's the text and it seems coupe has a less powerful amp!...

Harman Kardon Premium Surround Sound System in the BMW 3 Series

A brilliant sound experience on every seat
With its Harman Kardon® Logic 7® surround sound system, the BMW 3 Series offers perfect entertainment on the road. Up to 16 speakers and a DSP amplifier portray music with concert-hall realism. Thanks to intensive cooperation between Harman Kardon and BMW, as early as the vehicle design phase, tailor-made solutions were created for every body variant. The particular acoustic conditions of the Sedan, Touring, Coupé and Convertible were taken into consideration, in the most minute detail. In tuning the BMW 3 Series sound, Harman Kardon employed its AuraVox fully automatic equalizing system, which uses a computer to adjust hundreds of parameters. Subsequent manual fine-tuning by acoustic experts provided an additional, decisive improvement in overall system performance.

The experience is impressive: Passengers at every seating position are treated to a three-dimensional listening experience that is both fascinating and captivating. Thanks to Harman Kardon’s innovative surround sound technology, elusive “sweet spots”, where only the driver or front passenger are presented with a balanced soundstage, are a thing of the past.

A unique sound experience on every seat
High-grade, carefully matched components and the Logic 7 technology of the Harman Kardon surround sound system form the basis for the concert-hall atmosphere in the BMW 3 Series. Stereo recordings provide a unique, space-filling 360-degree sound experience at every seat. To ensure a perfect soundstage in every BMW 3 Series model, Harman Kardon acoustic experts developed a specific solution for each model variant.

Depending on model, the BMW 3 Series employs 11, 13 or 16 high-performance speakers: operating as a central bass, two large speakers under the driver and front passenger seats act as subwoofers, providing powerful bass in all BMW 3 Series models.

Added to these, metal matrix tweeters are installed in the mirror triangles and midrange speakers in the front doors, plus an additional midrange in the instrument panel of all models. Rear midrange speakers are mounted in the rear doors or side panels, depending on vehicle type.

Due to the individual vehicle architecture of the various models, the mounting locations of the rear tweeters differ; while the Sedan’s speakers are mounted in the rear package tray, those in the Coupé, Touring and Convertible are mounted in the rear side panels.

In addition, Harman Kardon has integrated two especially flat EDPL (electrodynamic planar loudspeaker) units in the headliner of the Touring, where there is insufficient space for conventional speakers. Instead of headliner speakers, the Sedan and Coupé have two additional midrange speakers in the rear package tray.

In the new Sedan the Harman Kardon Logic 7 DSP amplifier, with a total power output of 625 watts, provides abundant power for captivating surround sound. The sound specialists packaged the amplifier of the Coupé and Touring with a peak output of 420 watts and due to its different speaker configuration, a DSP amplifier with 340-watt total output was selected for the BMW 3 Series Convertible.

Optimum sound tuning with AuraVox
In shaping the BMW 3 Series sound, Harman Kardon employed its fully automatic AuraVox equalizing system. The system evaluates hundreds of parameters and independently generates the appropriate filters, corrects speaker delay differences, and sets optimum volume levels of individual channels. Combined with subsequent fine tuning by sound engineers, the result is faithful sound reproduction that meets Harman Kardon’s high standards.

Speakers for the BMW 3 Series Sedan

16 high-performance loudspeakers with optimum position in the car.

7 x 26 mm metal-matrix dome tweeters, dashboard, front & rear

7 x 100 mm ALumaprene midrange speakers, dashboard, front & rear

2 x 217 mm woofers (central bass), below front seats

Amplifier

Harman Kardon® Logic7® DSP amplifier in Class-D technology with 625-watt total output
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So it's the Logic7, similar to my very nice sounding Logic7 that I have in my e90 now, with a few more speakers. Look forward to it.

Still no info as to what the 600 watt (625 watts according to hk) represents. PMPO, peak to peak, peak or RMS (unlikely).
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Great find thanks, here's the text and it seems coupe has a less powerful amp!...
They are referring to the E92 Coupe because it is still in production
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I test drove an F30 with the upgrade, but I couldn't find all 16... I know there's subs under the seats, but where are they?!
The subs are flat in the floor under the seats.
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They are referring to the E92 Coupe because it is still in production
Thanks, that was puzzling me
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I have the 2009 335i Upgraded speakers which are not Harmon. I got the Harmen system on my F30 and i hope its good im a DJ and sound is very important to me. My current 335 sound Sucks!!!!!!!
Your a DJ? Thats awesome. What kind of music do you do. I love dance/techno/electronic. Been thinking about learning to produce some beats.
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I test drove an F30 with the upgrade, but I couldn't find all 16... I know there's subs under the seats, but where are they?!
4 tweeters on doors, 4 mids on doors

2 tweeters on rear deck, 2 mids on rear deck

1 mid in front center, 1 tweeter in front center

1 sub under each front seat
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I test drove an F30 with the upgrade, but I couldn't find all 16... I know there's subs under the seats, but where are they?!
4 tweeters on doors, 4 mids on doors

2 tweeters on rear deck, 2 mids on rear deck

1 mid in front center, 1 tweeter in front center

1 sub under each front seat
Awesome!

Can't wait to put some global underground through it!
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Awesome!

Can't wait to put some global underground through it!
Yea, avicii and dirty south sound fucking awesome, so does third party and thomas gold
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Can't wait to rock some Ace Of Base! Yeah! I saw the sign, b***es!
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Your a DJ? Thats awesome. What kind of music do you do. I love dance/techno/electronic. Been thinking about learning to produce some beats.

Trance/ElectroHouse/Dance. I don't produce however. If you want to make beats start off with FL Studio they have a great music beat libery
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Yea, avicii and dirty south sound fucking awesome, so does third party and thomas gold

Phazing-Dirty South great remix!!!!

Adele-Set Fire to the rain(Thomas Gold Mashup)

Avcii- Levels 2. BOSS!!!!!
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had the chance to listen to the 2 systems.
i did not find an amazing difference between the HK and the Hifi, which actually is pretty good, crystal lear, and with some surround sound. actually, i wanted to tick it for my order but i may stick to the hifi which is very good.
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Additional information found here:

http://in.news.yahoo.com/bmw-3-serie...021428306.html


BMW 3 Series receives interior sound by Harman/Kardon Logic 7 surround sound system
by Wheels Unplugged – Wed 7 Mar, 2012.

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"The BMW 3 Series F30 Sedan presents perfect entertainment on the road thanks to its Harman/Kardon premium surround sound system. Launched in late 2011, this latest model of the 3 Series joins its precursor, the BMW E90, as a testament to the intensive collaboration between BMW and HARMAN, the global leading supplier of premium audio and infotainment systems, to create the ultimate in-car audio experience. The new Harman/Kardon surround sound system in the F30 Sedan is a tailor-made solution that promises an even more beautiful sound than before.

16 speakers and a Class-DSP amplifier in the BMW F30 Sedan provide excellent listening experience to every passenger as if sitting in a concert-hall. Taking consideration of the particular acoustic conditions of the BMW 3 Series, Harman/Kardon installed seven 100 mm ALumaprene midrange speakers on the dashboard as well as in the front and rear area. Their specially developed membranes and magnet systems create major sound dynamics and increased effectiveness than usual speakers. Additional, seven 26 mm metal-matrix dome tweeters are placed in the mirror triangles and midrange speakers in the front doors, plus an additional midrange in the instrument panel of all models, completed through two powerful 217 mm central bass subwoofers below the two front seats. The acoustically highly transparent speaker grills support a crystal clear sound experience and their design exhibits brilliantly to the style of the BMW 3 Series.

With a total power output of 625 watts, the sound of the Harman/Kardon Logic 7 surround system is shaped by its fully automatic AuraVox equalizing system. HARMAN has brought its profound knowledge of acoustics and psychoacoustics in this brand new car sound technology, which evaluates hundreds of parameters and independently generates the appropriate filters, corrects speaker delay differences, and sets optimum volume levels of individual channels. As a result of this acoustic tuning, amended by manual fine-tuning by acoustic experts, all 16 precisely positioned high-end loudspeakers develop their full tone potential in interplay. No matter where passengers are seated, they are able to enjoy a fascinating three-dimensional listening experience."
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Cool

does anyone know *cough* E90Fleet *cough* know how much weight the whole H/K unit adds over the standard system?

I know I'm getting picky.. but at this point.. I don't have much else to obsess about..
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Thanks for this update. So excited to hear this system. If it sounds half as good as the 'car-audio-porn' marketing literature suggests, it will be worth the wait.

I will be setting aside a large amount of time refining my playlists to make the most of this when it gets here! (that and spending way too much time reading F30 reviews, the owner's manual, surfing this site etc etc. it can't be healthy...).
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