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      02-26-2012, 03:36 PM   #23
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All these colors are so beautiful...

as far as F30 is concerned, are you guys sure it's Imperial Blue Xirallic?

because on the BMW NA website, it shows Imperial Blue Metallic?

How do we know for sure... (without asking the CA) ?
Imperial Blue Xirallic on every document in the UK. It also looks different to metallic in person. 100% certain its Xirallic, in the UK at least.
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I really like the Havana color ive had 4BMW's in black i kinda regret not getting it in my F30 it looks really nice
We Americans are not allowed to have a color called "Havana".
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All these colors are so beautiful...

as far as F30 is concerned, are you guys sure it's Imperial Blue Xirallic?

because on the BMW NA website, it shows Imperial Blue Metallic?

How do we know for sure... (without asking the CA) ?
Yes, BMW USA usually leaves out the "Xirallic" or "Brilliant effect" part in their brochures
Its the exact same color
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We Americans are not allowed to have a color called "Havana".
Yes, they rename it Mojave in the USA
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It is alright. After my 3 years lease is up with the new F30, then I get another with the frozen color. Any extra cost to get that?
Probably around $4,000
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What is the exact difference between Xirallic and Metallic paint ?
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Probably around $4,000
Why is it so much if its just a different type of clear coat?
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Why is it so much if its just a different type of clear coat?
Hey, if you don't like the price, an afternoon with a brillo pad should do the trick.
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Yes, they rename it Mojave in the USA
I don't see how this is more political correct but oh well lol
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We Americans are not allowed to have a color called "Havana".
Okay well the equivalent name is. Mojave Metallic
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Hey, if you don't like the price, an afternoon with a brillo pad should do the trick.
It's not the price, it sounds like the paint process is the same, just wondering why its a 4k difference, unless the special clear coat is really expensive
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What is the exact difference between Xirallic and Metallic paint ?
Metallic paint has a small amount of tiny metallic flakes in the paint that reflect sunlight.

Xirallics are special flakes that reflect a lot more light than flat metallic particles, so the paint has a much more "sparkly" or "Glittery" effect
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Why is it so much if its just a different type of clear coat?
Because 1 the paint line has to be stopped and the clearcoat changed and 2 the car goes through the whole Individual process and 3 its more expensive paint.

And one usually also has to get the whole Individual package (wheels, Interior, paint) in the early life of a new 3 Series model.

Later on one can get the paint alone, like on the E90 LCI for around $800
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Thank you. So F10 and F30's get the same Imperial Blue Xirallic paint even though it says metallic on website, right ?
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Thank you. So F10 and F30's get the same Imperial Blue Xirallic paint even though it says metallic on website, right ?
For the UK yes, and both say Xirallic so I assume the same is true for the US market.
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Thank you. So F10 and F30's get the same Imperial Blue Xirallic paint even though it says metallic on website, right ?
Yes.
You can see they both have the same paint code A89, meaning its the exact same paint formula.
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Just brought home the Glacier Silver and I love the color. Of course I'm still trying to figure out just how it's different from Titanium Silver. My untrained eye seems to think that there might be just a bit more blue in the Glacier but I'm not sure.
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I am about to order mine in Mineral Grey. Think this is the best colo(u)r in combination with the 18" 397's and the Sports Line edition... must say, looking at the picture in the previous post that Glacier Silver is also very nice...

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It's not the price, it sounds like the paint process is the same, just wondering why its a 4k difference, unless the special clear coat is really expensive
I think where your thinking goes off the rails is in assuming that prices are based only on cost. BMW charges what it thinks people will pay.
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Yes, BMW USA usually leaves out the "Xirallic" or "Brilliant effect" part in their brochures
Its the exact same color
Thank you for you confirmation E90Fleet, as well as for the color code A89!

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Imperial Blue Xirallic on every document in the UK. It also looks different to metallic in person. 100% certain its Xirallic, in the UK at least.
With your reassurance, i am even more confident on my order! I love that dark blue, especially with more glitters to attracts the gals j/k!

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We Americans are not allowed to have a color called "Havana".
I wish they kept that name, it rings better and it smell better

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Yes, they rename it Mojave in the USA
Nice alternative... either way, this is a very good color!!

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I don't see how this is more political correct but oh well lol
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Just to let you know, I have gone ahead and ordered Glacier Silver on a 328i Luxury!
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I think where your thinking goes off the rails is in assuming that prices are based only on cost. BMW charges what it thinks people will pay.
This quote is exactly right. Doing a matte finish is actually infinitely easier to do than a high gloss. There is no color sanding and polishing involved. So it's all about what the consumer would pay. 10 years ago, I don't think anyone woulda paid extra for a matte finish. But it's gangsta now. And gangsta is a cash cow.

Seriously though, since all of the painting is done by machine, I think, perhaps, the hardest thing about those special colors is that they have to switch the production line to shoot the custom color. That's probably where most of the cost hike comes from.

This is all speculation of course. Except the gangsta part.
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