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      02-27-2012, 09:55 AM   #1
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2012 BMW 335i: Still the Benchmark?

0-60mph - 4.7 sec
1/4 mile - 13.3 sec @ 103.9 mph
60-0 - 109 ft
Lateral accel: .90g

Compare this to Insideline's F30 328i performance test results @ http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651933.




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Expectations run high for any new 3 Series -- almost unfairly so. Our expectations were such that when we found out the new 2012 BMW 3 Series would be slightly bigger, and its power steering system would use a fuel-efficient electric motor, we grew skeptical. Cynical, maybe. And then a 2012 BMW 335i equipped with the optional sport eight-speed automatic ($500; the standard eight-speed automatic and six-speed manual are no-cost options) showed up at our test track. What did we learn? That there's no reason for the roundel faithful to fret.

Benchmarks? Forget the last 335i. This new one actually accelerates at the same pace as the 320-horse, 332 lb-ft 335is -- the one with two turbos and a fast-shifting twin-clutch transmission. Our mere automatic 2012 335i, down a turbo and supposedly 20 horsepower and 32 lb-ft, reached 60 mph in 4.7 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.3 sec at 103.9 mph. That's right on pace with a Camaro SS, assuming it's driven well.

Launching the 335i is a simple matter of turning traction control off, holding the brake while waiting for the tach needle to swing past 2000 rpm, and letting go. The rear tires chatter through first, and shifts happen with who-needs-a-twin-clutch-transmission immediacy. Stopping is equally impressive. The Continental ContiSportContact SSR tires grab insistently at the behest of its 13.4-inch front and 13.0-inch rear brake rotors. The best stop we recorded from 60 mph took 109 feet.

A reminder: This is just a luxury sedan with an EPA fuel economy rating of 23/33 mpg city/highway.

Our test car came equipped with adjustable shocks, thanks to Adaptive M Suspension ($900), and the largely aesthetic Sport Line ($1700), which adds sport-tuned suspension and raises the speed limiter. With these additives, the 335i's best figure eight-lap time, at 25.7 sec, and lateral acceleration, at 0.90 average g, match the Chrysler 300 SRT8's results. But beyond a respectable lap time, the 335i provides truly enjoyable handling characteristics. It can be backed into a corner, it can plow, and it can transition between these two extremes at the driver's preference. It's compliant and friendly.

A reminder: This is just a luxury sedan that seats five.

The 335i seems portly -- the scales show 3586 pounds and a front/rear distribution of 51/49 percent -- but that weight actually matches that of the last 335i coupe we tested. Versus the four-cylinder 328i, it carries 100 extra pounds. Where do you think that weight comes from? A hundred points if you guessed the front axle. The added weight is noticeable after back-to-back drives with the 328i, but equally noticeable is the extra forward thrust the 335i so readily supplies. A slightly heavier nose or more power? Decisions, decisions.

The biggest problem we discovered came from the automatic stop/start system. On three occasions, the system deactivated itself while the car was stopped at a light with the engine off, leaving its driver stuck in neutral with a line of honking, angry drivers rapidly forming behind. This phenomenon happened once to yours truly, and that was all the impetus I needed to deactivate it every time I started the car.

Beyond that one glaring issue, I spent much time on the side of a twisty mountain road trying to find other faults, but all I came up with were nitpicky quibbles. The stitching on the hand brake boot doesn't match the stitches on the hand brake lever. The red accent line that stretches across the dash doesn't look that great. (You can get it in black.) The fascia doesn't come across well in photographs, but it is rather attractive in person, blending cues from the i8 concept car with the svelte lines of the Z4.

Instead of finding faults, I found myself thinking about the smart details BMW has added. Tug the hood release under the dash twice and the hood is unlocked; no fumbling around for the latch under the hood required. With Comfort Access (part of the $1900 Premium Package), if you wiggle your foot under the left exhaust pipe, the trunk pops open, which is a wonderful thing for when your arms are full of luggage.

And they will be. Another reminder: This is just a luxury sedan with 17.0 cubic feet of cargo space.

Expectations run high for the 3 Series because it repeatedly delivers such strong performances. Be it on a test track, a two-lane road, or during a daily commute, this new 335i continues that trend. It's capable enough to be compared to sports cars, but compliant and livable enough to be called "just" a luxury sedan.
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4.7s?! wtf, I thought it was supposed to be 5.4s or something... I think I might just get the 335i now and not wait for a new motor
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      02-27-2012, 10:14 AM   #4
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I like that more than C&D's test!
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wait, so the 5.4s published by bmw is inaccurate?

I really thought it didn't make sense that a car 80 lbs lighter with the same engine would be slower than previous gen.
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Very nice.

Thanx for sharing.
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Man that engine sounds good! I love the roar at 1:16!
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N55 is for those who have a need for speed. I'm on the list.
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Very nice.

Thanx for sharing.
Congrats Robin.. you bought a beast!
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Wow!! Nice to see a glowing review of the 335i after all of the great 328i reviews. I cannot wait to receive mine.
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I think the Insideline times were off. I drove 2 different 335i demos and they felt very strong so this review seems more in line.

Can't say its quite as fast as my N54 equipped 135i but the new 8 sp trans makes it quite accepatable now that Mrs. Emtrey is pushing me to buy the first 4 door car I have ever owned in my life.

Awaiting pricing for M sport and will be looking to get one of the early 2013s (Mpsort or sportline) to coincide with my lease end on the 135.
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Nice. Just confirms C&D Mag's numbers were off for some reason.

I just never bought the idea that BMW would come out with a new model with lower 0-60 times than the previous version.
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isnt it odd that two other publications, three if you include BMW themselves, all achieved low 5's, and Motor Trend somehow runs a 4.7?

i'd love it if MT was right but i think we should wait for a larger sample to confirm this.
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isnt it odd that two other publications, three if you include BMW themselves, all achieved low 5's, and Motor Trend somehow runs a 4.7?

i'd love it if MT was right but i think we should wait for a larger sample to confirm this.
Exact same thing happened with the E90. Car mags got about 1/2 second less than the BMW published number.

I noticed in the video he is torque braking the auto trans to about 2k RPM at launch. I wonder if BMW is testing without doing that?
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Each buff mag seems to test differently ( and BMW is notriously conservative)..what I am looking at is relative to the same buff mags test of the E90 335 and 135. I think they all ran in the high 4 sec range 0-60.

seems the F30 335 is very close and not dramtically "slower" as earlier characterized.
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check out 3:05 ... it says it all
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Yes we F30 335i owners can also be proud of our 6Cyl. cars too
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Crap! I'm coming from an N54 335 and had convinced myself that I'll be perfectly happy with the 328 and save some money (which had made my wife even happier). I'm waiting for x-drive. After seeing this, not sure the performance difference is really that small. I'll have to test drive both but this is going to be tough. The smart choice 328 or the 335 for my Y chromosome needs.
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Crap! I'm coming from an N54 335 and had convinced myself that I'll be perfectly happy with the 328 and save some money (which had made my wife even happier). I'm waiting for x-drive. After seeing this, not sure the performance difference is really that small. I'll have to test drive both but this is going to be tough. The smart choice 328 or the 335 for my Y chromosome needs.
Coming from an n54 myself, i am more than happy with the power in the 328
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I like that more than C&D's test!
Yeah, for some reason Car & Driver doesn't like BMW anymore. I guess they got tired of people whining about how the 3 series wins everything.
In their first review of the F30 they kept talking about how it had all of this body. I find that interesting because literally no other site said that.
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Coming from an n54 myself, i am more than happy with the power in the 328
That's good to hear. Any particular driving scenarios where you wish you had the n5x? What's acceleration like while already at highway speeds? Do you need to get the engine revving high to make enough passing power? In the N54 even when going >70 there is still so much punch just downshifting into 5th gear. I worry about that in the n20.
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Exact same thing happened with the E90. Car mags got about 1/2 second less than the BMW published number.

I noticed in the video he is torque braking the auto trans to about 2k RPM at launch. I wonder if BMW is testing without doing that?
Keep in mind that the car mags generally quote acceleration times with 1-ft rollout (like dragstrip timing equipment), so the car's already moving when the clock starts, which will result in a faster 0-60. Insideline reports 0-60 using this method as well as an actual 0-60, with the difference usually in the range of 0.2-0.4 seconds. I'm guessing that BMW may be quoting an actual 0-60 time. If you look at their test of the new 328i, you'll notice a 0-60 of 5.9sec, which is slightly slower than BMW's number (5.7) and a 0-60 with rollout of 5.5sec, which is what the mags would have reported. If you take the same 0.4 seconds off BMW's number for the 335 of 5.4sec, you would expect a 5.0sec run as reported by the mags. So the 4.7sec by MT is indeed faster than BMW quotes, but by something more like 0.3sec. And C&D's 5.3sec still looks like an anomaly.
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