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      04-10-2015, 01:37 PM   #1
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Mixed Performance tires ?

I have a 428i GC Xdrive M-Sport with DHP on order with Style 441 M Ferric Grey with "Mixed Perf. Tire" (m-sport brakes). Does anybody have a car with this setup? What tires did you get? I am concerned now because of the Car and Driver review with the Pirelli P7 (it is a "grand touring all season"). I am strongly considering trying to change the order to go with Summer performance tires. I am very likely going to get a used set of winter wheels and tires from the active BMW community in my area this fall.

The other tire options are the expected Performance (Summer) tires or All-Season - probably the Pirellis or equivalent. I expect this tire will be some brand of ultra-high performance All Season

I have the question out to my salesperson and will report back results here in any case.
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"mixed performance tires" = summer performance tires that are staggered in size, slightly wider in the rear than the front; 225 front, 255 rear.
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This summer I'm going with the Michelin PSS (staggered setup)
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"mixed performance tires" = summer performance tires that are staggered in size, slightly wider in the rear than the front; 225 front, 255 rear.
Thanks. I confirm I do see that option on Tire Rack too. All wheel drive with staggered setup should be "interesting". I was not expecting that.
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And I found this...(840 is summer performance tires)
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You won't regret getting the setup. If you want even better get a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports when you replace your tires.
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And I found this...(840 is summer performance tires)
Actually 840 is the increased speed limiter, 155 mph, up from 130 mph without performance tires.

If a car isn't initially ordered with performance tires the speed limiter is PERMANENTLY set at 130 mph (not that it really matters in any practical way) and cannot be changed without adding DINAN software to the car.
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And I found this...(840 is summer performance tires)
Actually 840 is the increased speed limiter, 155 mph, up from 130 mph without performance tires.

If a car isn't initially ordered with performance tires the speed limiter is PERMANENTLY set at 130 mph (not that it really matters in any practical way) and cannot be changed without adding DINAN software to the car.
I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
And how big of a deal will it be for you to not go past 130?
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
And how big of a deal will it be for you to not go past 130?
Not a big deal. But why decrease the limiter for someone who orders A/S tires?
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Not a big deal. But why decrease the limiter for someone who orders A/S tires?
Lower speed rating on the All-Season tires.

Quote for ordering guide....

"Note: Performance tires can be
ordered by selecting option 840."
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
And how big of a deal will it be for you to not go past 130?
Not a big deal. But why decrease the limiter for someone who orders A/S tires?
Because No Season tires are crap and shouldn't be driven at speeds higher than 130mph. Is this hard to comprehend? BMW doesn't want the liability.

Tires are the most important part on a car. Good ones will save your life, bad ones will kill you.

No Seasons really shouldn't go past 105mph.

Summer rubber are for speed.
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
And how big of a deal will it be for you to not go past 130?
Not a big deal. But why decrease the limiter for someone who orders A/S tires?
Because No Season tires are crap and shouldn't be driven at speeds higher than 130mph. Is this hard to comprehend?

Tires are the most important part on a car. Good ones will save your life, bad ones will kill you.

No Seasons really shouldn't go past 105mph.

Summer rubber are for speed.
I have no desire to put Bridgestone run flat summer rubber on my car. So I'd rather order the crap all seasons and then switch them out for a proper set of PSS.
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This code 840 associated with the 155mph limiter; is it "S840A"? I pulled my VIN, and found that code with the description "High speed synchronisation"
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This code 840 associated with the 155mph limiter; is it "S840A"? I pulled my VIN, and found that code with the description "High speed synchronisation"
That's it.
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This code 840 associated with the 155mph limiter; is it "S840A"? I pulled my VIN, and found that code with the description "High speed synchronisation"
That's it.
Got it. It's not as if I require a higher top speed of 155, but it's nice to know I have that capability.
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Got it. It's not as if I require a higher top speed of 155, but it's nice to know I have that capability.
One day we can watch you on the news giving a really bad ass cop car chase.
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
Why does that matter?
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I have no desire to put Bridgestone run flat summer rubber on my car. So I'd rather order the crap all seasons and then switch them out for a proper set of PSS.
Aren't the allseasons rft as well?
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I never understood this.

I'm thinking all seasons/18s for my xDrive order so I can order some 19s/PSS for the summers. But then I will be saddled with the 130 limiter.
Why does that matter?
Not a big deal. Doubt I'll break 130 on the street or the track. Seems like it shouldn't be a mandatory change IMO.
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I have no desire to put Bridgestone run flat summer rubber on my car. So I'd rather order the crap all seasons and then switch them out for a proper set of PSS.
Aren't the allseasons rft as well?
Yes.

Edit: My thinking is buy 19s or 18s with PSS for summers and use the stock AS run flats for the winter.
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Yes.

Edit: My thinking is buy 19s or 18s with PSS for summers and use the stock AS run flats for the winter.
Will that remove the top speed limiter (155 MPH)?
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