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      02-15-2017, 07:57 PM   #1
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I got a ticket today...

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...and not for speeding or anything cool.

I parked in a compact cars spot. The cop thinks a 435i isn't a compact but the EPA says otherwise. And yes I am going to fight the ticket.
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      02-15-2017, 07:58 PM   #2
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...and not for speeding or anything cool.

I parked in a compact cars spot. The cop thinks a 435i isn't a compact but the EPA says otherwise. And yes I am going to fight the ticket.
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      02-15-2017, 08:43 PM   #3
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Seems pretty easy to fight if the EPA rates it as a compact...easy enough to obtain that documentation if thats the case......
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      02-15-2017, 08:49 PM   #4
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https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bycl...Cars2016.shtml

Clearly shows 435 as Compact. Go get em.
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      02-15-2017, 09:06 PM   #5
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Yeah I'd fight that too, good luck!
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Total BS. He must have been bored.
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What kind of d-bag cop takes the time to write a ticket for a "compact spot" anyways..

I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-bored police who feel the need to do crap like this.

GL OP, hope that cop shows up in court. I'm putting money on the picked on a ton as a kid type.

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      02-15-2017, 09:44 PM   #8
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https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bycl...Cars2016.shtml

Clearly shows 435 as Compact. Go get em.
It also shows a Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupe as a compact.

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Current compact car size, as defined by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), for the US and for international models respectively, is approximately 4,100 mm (161 in) and 4,450 mm (175 in) long for hatchbacks, or 4,400 mm (173 in) and 4,750 mm (187 in) long for convertibles, sedans (saloon) or station wagons (estate car). Multi-purpose vehicles and sport utility vehicles based on small family cars (often called compact MPVs and compact SUVs) have similar sizes, ranging from 4,200 mm (165 in) to 4,500 mm (177 in) in the U.S., and from 4,400 mm (173 in) to 4,700 mm (185 in) in international-based models.
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Clearly shows 435 as Compact. Go get em.
looks like the 650, M6 and B6 are all compact too
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Quite funny reading this thread as an European and seeing that the car is listed as "compact" in the US
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I park in the clean air vehicle parking all the time.
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      02-16-2017, 03:00 PM   #12
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The cop thinks a 435i isn't a compact but the EPA says otherwise. And yes I am going to fight the ticket.
Huh? Police officers writing parking tickets? Typically that is handled by parking enforcement. (But I understand different parts of the US do things differently.)

Also, "compact spaces" (small car only spaces) are no longer recommended in the US. Nonetheless, your local code probably has a definition of "compact" that is used for violation purposes.
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Total BS. He must have been bored.
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What kind of d-bag cop takes the time to write a ticket for a "compact spot" anyways..

I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-bored police who feel the need to do crap like this.
What kind of State has laws for Compact Parking. That's the most ridiculous part.
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Quite funny reading this thread as an European and seeing that the car is listed as "compact" in the US
I was thinking the same thing. The Shelby GT350 is listed as a 'subcompact' lol

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/36885.shtml
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Quite funny reading this thread as an European and seeing that the car is listed as "compact" in the US
I was thinking the same thing. The Shelby GT350 is listed as a 'subcompact' lol

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/36885.shtml
The 340i is listed as compact and the 4 series is only slightly wider. Both are definitely smaller than midsize which is closer to a 5 series in size. Maybe the cop should have measured it.
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      02-17-2017, 10:37 AM   #16
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What kind of d-bag cop takes the time to write a ticket for a "compact spot" anyways..

I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-bored police who feel the need to do crap like this.

GL OP, hope that cop shows up in court. I'm putting money on the picked on a ton as a kid type.

-tgm
These are the reasons why some Officers of the Law cannot be trusted. Instead of finding out the facts before he writes a ticket. Which BTW would have taken him 3 minutes he decides that he doesnt like that car sitting there in that parking space clearly marked Compact and decides upon himself rather that a certifiable government agency that this car is violating the (City Ordnance) law. they need a walk of shame for police officers that do this kind of thing. Shame on you Mr. Self Righteous Police Officer you.
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He said donut. haha
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Compact spaces are usually seen in parking garages, they're spaces where a full sized car would be too long to fit into it. I've never seen a compact space on the street. I suppose they could exist in urban areas, and for the same reason, they're too short for a full sized car, SUV or pickup to fit within. But the signage would have to spell out in no uncertain terms what defines 'compact'.
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These are the reasons why some Officers of the Law cannot be trusted. Instead of finding out the facts before he writes a ticket. Which BTW would have taken him 3 minutes he decides that he doesnt like that car sitting there in that parking space clearly marked Compact and decides upon himself rather that a certifiable government agency that this car is violating the (City Ordnance) law. they need a walk of shame for police officers that do this kind of thing. Shame on you Mr. Self Righteous Police Officer you.
The issue is most people that drive BMW's will just pay the ticket. My wife was driving our 3-series (middle of the pack) coming off a freeway to a city street. Just happens that the long banking curve drops posted speed (for no real reason, since the city street is still 1/2 mile away). She got picked out of the pack of cars, while the lead and tailing cars went on by.....

I find it odd that our cars would classify as a compact anyways. Sure if it was one from the '80s when they were a lot smaller, but you can haul 5 full sized adults in these cars! More of a mid-sized ride....
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      02-17-2017, 08:55 PM   #21
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well ticket stands. compact car is one that is under 177 inches.

this happened on a federal instalation so if i get another ticket i cant park there
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...and not for speeding or anything cool.

I parked in a compact cars spot. The cop thinks a 435i isn't a compact but the EPA says otherwise. And yes I am going to fight the ticket.
Yep, it's a compact car for sure. Not subcompact, but the cop must have been hanging around car rental facilities for too long...(where they've decided on their own sizes).

Hmm...looks like I was wrong:

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e United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) defines a "compact" car as measuring between 100 cubic feet (2.8 m3) and 109 cubic feet (3.1 m3) of combined passenger and cargo volume capacity. Vehicle class size is defined in the U.S. by environmental laws in the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 40—Protection of Environment, Section 600.315-82 Classes of comparable automobiles.[2] Passenger car classes are defined based on interior volume index or seating capacity, except automobiles classified as a special vehicle such as those with only two designated seating positions.
Hmm, comes out just above 100 cubic feet interior...

I've always assumed cars smaller than Gran Marquis and Crown Vics are "compact" in the american market.
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