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      06-17-2014, 10:30 PM   #1
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I picked up my new car today and didn't waste time taking photos. After all, this car was meant to put a smile on your face due to how it drives.

Instead of finding the perfect industrial place to break out Instagram or your favorite photo taking app, I headed for a canyon carving jaunt. I was shocked...you still can't wipe the sh** eating grin off of my face.

The boring stuff: Glacier Silver/Black, M Sport, Premium, Tech, H/K, Heated seats, Stainless pedals, etc.

UDPATE (two days post delivery): WTF is up with this brake dust...& added some fodder for the M badge police



MPPK
I drove two different 335i xDrive M Sport models prior to placing my order. Neither had MPPK, but pulled fairly strong. I added MPPK at the port not knowing if the butt dyno would be able to tell a difference. I figured why not...




To me, even when I check my confirmation bias, this car feels much stronger than stock. Just wow.

There is no way my son gets to drive this thing. I'm doubtful the wife will either, aka Mrs. Mario Andretti.

(I'm not convinced the rocker decals will stay)



Sport auto w/Paddles
Meh, since I didn't get to know the original shift points I have no way to compare. The paddles might not get used much...maybe interstate driving in the mountains.

I guess they look cool.


DHP - Adaptive M Suspension + Variable Steering
This is a clear winner for me. The other two 335 models I drove did not have DHP and exhibited what many deride as a floaty boat ride. I hoped that DHP would reduce that to some extent. I figured if I didn't like it I would do the Dinan Shockware software first, then possibly the springs later.

The Adaptive M Suspension eliminated the float and so far doesn't leave me wanting the Dinan package. Perhaps I'm not as discerning as others. Switching between Comfort, Sport, and Sport+ resulted in immediate positive changes.

Comfort = float eliminated
Sport = confident
Sport+ = planted [EDIT] my confirmation bias was in effect here...apparently the dampers in Sport and Sport+ are configured the same


Verdict
This setup is exactly what I wanted. I'm sure I'll find things to criticize once I get more acquainted. But I'm pretty stoked that this is how I was introduced to BMW!

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Very well described,
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Perfect. I agree. I can't believe how much of a difference there is from Sport to Sport+ with DHP.
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Thanks for the great post! I wish I had the $$ for DHP, but I had to weight several factors that I absolutely wanted. I guess I will just save up some cash on the back end for the m performance suspension (OR....great gift ideas for the wife....tired of books and DVDs for X-mas and B-days).

It is posts like this that make me second guess my order.
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      06-18-2014, 11:17 AM   #5
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I don't think there is a difference from sport to sport+ with DHP unless you have your settings in sport set to comfort for chassis. Otherwise you only have two settings comfort and sport. Eco pro and comfort are the same. Sport + is sport and sport can either be sport or comfort depending on how you set it
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      06-18-2014, 03:03 PM   #6
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Very well described,
Thanks - just wanted to share my experience.


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Perfect. I agree. I can't believe how much of a difference there is from Sport to Sport+ with DHP.
I thought I noticed a distinct difference as well, but 300hp's post makes me wonder...


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Thanks for the great post! I wish I had the $$ for DHP, but I had to weight several factors that I absolutely wanted. I guess I will just save up some cash on the back end for the m performance suspension (OR....great gift ideas for the wife....tired of books and DVDs for X-mas and B-days).

It is posts like this that make me second guess my order.

Thanks - I sure am happy with it. In the end, I'm sure you'll be just as giddy with whatever you end up driving.


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I don't think there is a difference from sport to sport+ with DHP unless you have your settings in sport set to comfort for chassis. Otherwise you only have two settings comfort and sport. Eco pro and comfort are the same. Sport + is sport and sport can either be sport or comfort depending on how you set it
Interesting...I didn't change any of the defaults, just left it in the setting that includes adjusting the chassis. So are you saying that the only difference between Sport and Sport+ with DHP is that traction control is turned off? Any difference between RWD and AWD? Steering response? Any chance you happen to have links to that info? Now I'm curious.
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if i had xdrive = i doubt i would ever drive with the traction control on.

i don't think i ever had it on with my s4
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if i had xdrive = i doubt i would ever drive with the traction control on.

i don't think i ever had it on with my s4
I don't. Traction control and DSC are always off, even in the rain. AWD is a nanny in itself. I wish I had an off button for that, too.
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I picked up my new car today and didn't waste time taking photos. After all, this car was meant to put a smile on your face due to how it drives.

Instead of finding the perfect industrial place to break out Instagram or your favorite photo taking app, I headed for a canyon carving jaunt. I was shocked...you still can't wipe the sh** eating grin off of my face.

The boring stuff: Glacier Silver/Black, M Sport, Premium, Tech, H/K, Heated seats, Stainless pedals, etc.

MPPK
I drove two different 335i xDrive M Sport models prior to placing my order. Neither had MPPK, but pulled fairly strong. I added MPPK at the port not knowing if the butt dyno would be able to tell a difference. I figured why not...

To me, even when I check my confirmation bias, this car feels much stronger than stock. Just wow.

There is no way my son gets to drive this thing. I'm doubtful the wife will either, aka Mrs. Mario Andretti.

(I'm not convinced the rocker decals will stay)


Sport auto w/Paddles
Meh, since I didn't get to know the original shift points I have no way to compare. The paddles might not get used much...maybe interstate driving in the mountains.

I guess they look cool.


DHP - Adaptive M Suspension + Variable Steering
This is a clear winner for me. The other two 335 models I drove did not have DHP and exhibited what many deride as a floaty boat ride. I hoped that DHP would reduce that to some extent. I figured if I didn't like it I would do the Dinan Shockware software first, then possibly the springs later.

The Adaptive M Suspension eliminated the float and so far doesn't leave me wanting the Dinan package. Perhaps I'm not as discerning as others. Switching between Comfort, Sport, and Sport+ resulted in immediate positive changes.

Comfort = float eliminated
Sport = confident
Sport+ = planted


Verdict
This setup is exactly what I wanted. I'm sure I'll find things to criticize once I get more acquainted. But I'm pretty stoked that this is how I was introduced to BMW!
Congrats!
Just a little correction: adaptive suspensions work only on 2 set-up, not 3!
In Sport and Sport+ (as well as DSC Off) the set-up is the same
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Perfect. I agree. I can't believe how much of a difference there is from Sport to Sport+ with DHP.
As a matter of fact, no difference at all
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I don't think there is a difference from sport to sport+ with DHP unless you have your settings in sport set to comfort for chassis. Otherwise you only have two settings comfort and sport. Eco pro and comfort are the same. Sport + is sport and sport can either be sport or comfort depending on how you set it
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Thanks - just wanted to share my experience.




I thought I noticed a distinct difference as well, but 300hp's post makes me wonder...





Thanks - I sure am happy with it. In the end, I'm sure you'll be just as giddy with whatever you end up driving.




Interesting...I didn't change any of the defaults, just left it in the setting that includes adjusting the chassis. So are you saying that the only difference between Sport and Sport+ with DHP is that traction control is turned off? Any difference between RWD and AWD? Steering response? Any chance you happen to have links to that info? Now I'm curious.
Xdrive chassis set-up is approx 10mm higher than on RWD
I don't know about stiffness, but surely xdrive rolls more than a RWD.
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I wish I had an off button for that, too.
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Brake Dust Storm

UDPATE: I added some pics to the first post.

Two days...dirty, dirty wheels...ordering tons of Sonax. How will I ever keep up?


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if i had xdrive = i doubt i would ever drive with the traction control on.

i don't think i ever had it on with my s4
Driving in CA?

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I don't. Traction control and DSC are always off, even in the rain. AWD is a nanny in itself. I wish I had an off button for that, too.
How about the snow?

But yeah, I wish I there was a switch that could set it to RWD…

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Congrats!
Just a little correction: adaptive suspensions work only on 2 set-up, not 3!
In Sport and Sport+ (as well as DSC Off) the set-up is the same
Thanks for the clarification.

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As a matter of fact, no difference at all
No more piling on…

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Perfect!
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Xdrive chassis set-up is approx 10mm higher than on RWD
I don't know about stiffness, but surely xdrive rolls more than a RWD.
Thanks for the education…

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Oh, I forgot...more M badge horror (I do admit it's a bit much):


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I love all of my M badges - it will hold me over until I get an M3. LOL And to the OP - the brake dust does ease off a bit after the brakes bed in a bit. Enjoy your ride!
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The rocker panel decals are a bit much...

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I love all of my M badges - it will hold me over until I get an M3. LOL And to the OP - the brake dust does ease off a bit after the brakes bed in a bit. Enjoy your ride!
Oddly, although I've owned three M3s, I really don't mind the M badges as long as they're inside, under the hood or small and discreet.

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Xdrive chassis set-up is approx 10mm higher than on RWD
I don't know about stiffness, but surely xdrive rolls more than a RWD.
I thought getting DHP with xDrive lowered it 10mm, just like getting Sport or M-Sport does?
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I love all of my M badges - it will hold me over until I get an M3. LOL And to the OP - the brake dust does ease off a bit after the brakes bed in a bit. Enjoy your ride!
Thanks - I’m on the M train as soon as the M3 has AWD.

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Oddly, although I've owned three M3s, I really don't mind the M badges as long as they're inside, under the hood or small and discrete.
Agreed. Decals are going…probably have the tint guys take care of it.

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I thought getting DHP with xDrive lowered it 10mm, just like getting Sport or M-Sport does?
xDrive models are not lowered, regardless of line or DHP.
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