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      06-12-2012, 11:07 AM   #199
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It's already confirmed for the 5 series. The speculation centers around the 3 series which was specifically NOT announced for 2013 other than for the active-hybrid version coming out at the end of the year.
This is correct. F10 is confirmed to get it as of July production.

As of now, officially the only 2013 models announced to get this in the US (starting July production) are the 7 series, 5 series, 5 series GT, and ActiveHybrid 3 (which actually starts production after July).

Whether the F30 3 series gets the new NAV (Navigation Professional) sometime later during the 2013 model year remains to be seen.

You can be sure that at the very least, the first batch (July production) of 2013 model year F30 3 series won't have the new navigation professional system. Whether it gets added via an equipment change sometime during the 2013 model year is something BMW isn't disclosing to us right now.

What we can gleam from the information they have announced so far though is that the Activehybrid 3 will get the new navigation professional system. And the Activehybrid 3 starts production in November. So it's definitely possible that 2013 F30 3 series as of November production may get it as well.
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      06-12-2012, 04:10 PM   #200
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To add to the confusion I just placed an order for a 2013 Msport 335i on Friday. The build sheet shows 609 for the nav under the tech package.
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      06-12-2012, 05:51 PM   #201
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To add to the confusion I just placed an order for a 2013 Msport 335i on Friday. The build sheet shows 609 for the nav under the tech package.
So does mine, is that unusual?
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      06-12-2012, 09:22 PM   #202
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Jason, do you have any official documentation stating that the new iDrive/Navi will be in the 2013 F10? My dealers can't confirm it.
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      06-12-2012, 11:48 PM   #203
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To add to the confusion I just placed an order for a 2013 Msport 335i on Friday. The build sheet shows 609 for the nav under the tech package.
The Navi Professional has always been called 609.
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      06-13-2012, 11:32 AM   #204
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Jason, do you have any official documentation stating that the new iDrive/Navi will be in the 2013 F10? My dealers can't confirm it.
Tell your dealer to look at Product Planning & Strategy Bulletin bulletin #: B-1-0511-12-All-02 July Changes (released May 14, 2012).

It details July production changes and states that one of the changes includes (direct quote):
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Starting as of July 2012 production, the next generation Navigation Professional system (609) will be available on the 5 Series Sedan, 5 Series Gran Turismo, 7 Series Sedan and ActiveHybrid 3.
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      06-13-2012, 10:16 PM   #205
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Tell your dealer to look at Product Planning & Strategy Bulletin bulletin #: B-1-0511-12-All-02 July Changes (released May 14, 2012).

It details July production changes and states that one of the changes includes (direct quote):
Thanks! Not to be even more annoying, could you point us to a link or scan it in?
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What we can gleam from the information they have announced so far though is that the Activehybrid 3 will get the new navigation professional system. And the Activehybrid 3 starts production in November. So it's definitely possible that 2013 F30 3 series as of November production may get it as well.
Thanks for the (bad) news!

Is it still possible that the July 328i will get an updated navi without the new design? I really don't know if I should wait...
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      06-14-2012, 09:38 AM   #207
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Here in Sweden an August built 335i (I have M Sport and M sport brakes and everything so it is the updated one) still counts as a MY2012 according to BMW.
BMW Sweden still says that the F30 won't be a MY2013 until november in Sweden (europe) and it sounds strange if other countries will change before us. So I stand by what I said earlier that the navigation most likely will arrive from november and on for the F30.
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      06-15-2012, 12:39 AM   #208
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The thing that can't be recoded for is full Internet access, google POI search, etc. I am coming to the conclusion that I will end up waiting the rest of this year to find out what is going on and still only a 50/50 chance of seeing this make it to the US for spring 2013 delivery.
Sure you can code google poi search. That's part of BMW live. BMW Internet with full browser can also be coded with existing hardware. Why did you think it couldn't?
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Strange. It seems as though for a period of time it might be that the F31 and F30 will both have their production lines running with different nav systems. Bizarre.
Not at all. Over the years we've had all sorts of weird combinations of infotainment equipment being drip fed across the range. I think the oddest was when the 5er got the new idrive controller but kept the old CCC based idrive.

BMW no doubt have a reason why it's the way it is.
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      06-15-2012, 01:06 AM   #210
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Here in Sweden an August built 335i (I have M Sport and M sport brakes and everything so it is the updated one) still counts as a MY2012 according to BMW.
BMW Sweden still says that the F30 won't be a MY2013 until november in Sweden (europe) and it sounds strange if other countries will change before us. So I stand by what I said earlier that the navigation most likely will arrive from november and on for the F30.
According to E90Fleet, Rosslyn plant will change over to MY13 from 8/12 onwards. He attached some documents previously.
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According to E90Fleet, Rosslyn plant will change over to MY13 from 8/12 onwards. He attached some documents previously.
Lets wait and see, as I said earlier no one would be happier than me. But the computer connected to BMW still said it was a MY2012 build and when we tried to build another model (F10) it said MY2013.
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      06-15-2012, 09:51 AM   #212
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Does anyone know if this will be a Software upgrade to existing F10 Professional Navigation Systems? I have a late 2011 F10 M SPORT.

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Does anyone know if this will be a Software upgrade to existing F10 Professional Navigation Systems? I have a late 2011 F10 M SPORT.

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No, it's a hardware upgrade as well.
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      06-18-2012, 12:24 PM   #214
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Sure you can code google poi search. That's part of BMW live. BMW Internet with full browser can also be coded with existing hardware. Why did you think it couldn't?
Thanks, I also discovered this recently on a test drive, I am not sure why previously I had been under the impression it was not available.

I've put my order in for a "2013" F30 328i, using the new F30 configuration choices for an x-drive equipped model.

We'll see if it shows up with the new nav or old. It will probably be delivered around October.
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How can you tell they are not putting the new version into the 28/35i. The pictures different, but what if they used 2012 images for the configuration.
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How can you tell they are not putting the new version into the 28/35i. The pictures different, but what if they used 2012 images for the configuration.
Agree. This means nothing other than the fact that they're just using previously marketed/developed pictures. I doubt that BMW expects any normal customer to be looking a the detail graphics on the iDrive....just us geeks :-)
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Agree. This means nothing other than the fact that they're just using previously marketed/developed pictures. I doubt that BMW expects any normal customer to be looking a the detail graphics on the iDrive....just us geeks :-)
I just received word back from Canada head office. MY 2013 F30's (aside from Hybrid) will 100% NOT be getting the new iDrive (at least in the August production month).
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Cool! I Love paying 60'000 $ because I want a sparkling brand new car with latest tech and then getting an old navi with a mediocre screen that gets beaten in every imagable way by my iphone and a 40$ navi which has free maps updates and the best lane assistant ever created.

The only upside is, that the new navi still looks outdated and I'd rather have a step by step zoom than the lagy lagy laglag zoom I saw in the video...
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