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      05-15-2012, 10:41 PM   #89
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It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. 328i xDrive with the configuration I want (not top of the line) would be $51,125 which puts it in Audi A6 range. I guess, so long my bmw hopes.
They is a hefty price for a 328i. You make a good point about the A6. You can build a heavily optioned A6 2.0T for under $50k. The new A6 is really nice inside, the new touchpad navi is great. It will lack some performance compared to the 3er, but the fit/finish and feel of the A6 is a class above.
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It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. 328i xDrive with the configuration I want (not top of the line) would be $51,125 which puts it in Audi A6 range. I guess, so long my bmw hopes.
They is a hefty price for a 328i. You make a good point about the A6. You can build a heavily optioned A6 2.0T for under $50k. The new A6 is really nice inside, the new touchpad navi is great. It will lack some performance compared to the 3er, but the fit/finish and feel of the A6 is a class above.
you are making a good point about the price, but remember that you are comparing an upgrade from volks wagen (audi) to bmw, Audi is like Lexus from Toyota and Acura from Honda, but I agree with you, if you are looking for a better price, you should go for the A6
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ZMM will delete STD or 100% equipment 520

Sounds like they are still being deleted with M-Sport.

The one curious thing is there is no mention of the M-Sport brake upgrade anywhere?
I thought there was no M Sport brake upgrade with the exception that the calipers are painted blue with an M decal on them.
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I'm just pissed coz the only thing I care about in the premium package if I would go w a 335 is the comfort access and the sat radio, so to get them I have to pay for the whole package, it's like the xenon lights and premium package argument in the MY12
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... remember that you are comparing an upgrade from volks wagen (audi) to bmw, Audi is like Lexus from Toyota and Acura from Honda....
Where does Porsche fit into this train of thought?
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you are making a good point about the price, but remember that you are comparing an upgrade from volks wagen (audi) to bmw, Audi is like Lexus from Toyota and Acura from Honda, but I agree with you, if you are looking for a better price, you should go for the A6
It is German so it is already better than the jap cars.

I would never put Audi in the same sentence as those POS.
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Where does Porsche fit into this train of thought?
Best German cars made.
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Correct. But my question was rhetorical.
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Where does Porsche fit into this train of thought?
Other than being a subsidiary of VAG, does Porsche actually share any components with Audi? As far as I'm aware, Porsche is still Porsche just under a bigger company. I think you should've used Lamborghini as an example. Doesn't Audi engineer engines derived from Lamborghini engines? VAG buys up everything, hard to keep track of what is what and the details of everything...lol

Anyway, 3-Series getting up there in price (which is no surprise really, I've come to accept it...). I also don't like how they bunch some things. Sure the price justifies what's included but why would I want to pay more for a package when I only want one component?

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Where does Porsche fit into this train of thought?
Other than being a subsidiary of VAG, does Porsche actually share any components with Audi? As far as I'm aware, Porsche is still Porsche just under a bigger company. I think you should've used Lamborghini as an example. Doesn't Audi engineer engines derived from Lamborghini engines? VAG buys up everything, hard to keep track of what is what and the details of everything...lol

Anyway, 3-Series getting up there in price (which is no surprise really, I've come to accept it...). I also don't like how they bunch some things. Sure the price justifies what's included but why would I want to pay more for a package when I only want one component?
correction: VW engines.
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I wish I could get a $1050 discount for removing the moonroof on the 335.
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It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. 328i xDrive with the configuration I want (not top of the line) would be $51,125 which puts it in Audi A6 range. I guess, so long my bmw hopes.
My 2013 335i M sport is $52150 +$895
Compared to my 2012 335i Sport setup $51170 = $895

$1000 more and I will get the M sport and blind spot detection.
I think it's not bad.

I will wait till dec to order one and hope there will be winter cash on the new models.
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      05-16-2012, 01:12 AM   #101
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BMW SA usually increases prices around atleast 2 times a year.

I would expect one in the next few months, latest by the August factory switchover

Thanks.
Was planning on placing an order by the end of the month for a 328i, but now I am not sure cause about the changes. e.g.- updated NAV on f30 touring
Any idea if the nav software on the existing f30's can be upgraded to the 'new one'?
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      05-16-2012, 04:29 AM   #102
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Really need to get the question above answered:

Does "Sat Radio Preparation" (standard item for all models) mean that the stereo is completely ready for broadcast as soon as a Sirius subscription is established, and no other Dealer help/charges are required?
Just no.

"Sat Radio Preparation" is the Sirius antenna pre-installed and pre-wired in the roof sharkfin.

Since MY2010 the Sirius tuner has been built-in in either the iDrive or the Professional Radio HU; there is no more a separate tuner available from factory or for dealer-retrofit.

If ordered from factory then the Sirius tuner is activated and with a 1-year subscription already set. If not ordered from factory then the activation can be done by the dealer by paying for the activation codes (FSC) and coding. Price of the FSC is about the same as ordering the option from factory, but with the addition of dealer labor charges -the 1-year subscription will be included for the total price.
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      05-16-2012, 07:46 AM   #103
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Hi Jason,

When will we be able to see wholesale pricing for the 2013 3-Series?
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Well, it looks like I just got priced out of the market. A moderately equipped 328 now costs nearly the same as my 07 335. That's a tough pill to swallow. My finances are not that great at the moment, and that's probably why I'm complaining, but I never had a problem purchasing a BMW before, even when I made less money. They're just getting very very expensive.

Sadly my 335 has nearly 115,000 miles on it, and I'm nearing a time when I do need to purchase a new car. I guess I have champagne taste, and a beer budget LOL.
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      05-16-2012, 08:57 AM   #105
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When I was considering a 2011 335d, the MSRP with everything I wanted was about 55k. I am looking at an MSRP right now for an M Sport 335 at right around 55k with improved options over what I was looking at a couple of years ago, in a better car with more room and similar fuel economy - i have no complaints. The drive event cash and BMWCCA cash equals an extra 1500 off. Nothing to sneeze at.
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Well, it looks like I just got priced out of the market. A moderately equipped 328 now costs nearly the same as my 07 335. That's a tough pill to swallow. My finances are not that great at the moment, and that's probably why I'm complaining, but I never had a problem purchasing a BMW before, even when I made less money. They're just getting very very expensive.

Sadly my 335 has nearly 115,000 miles on it, and I'm nearing a time when I do need to purchase a new car. I guess I have champagne taste, and a beer budget LOL.
Did the '12 -> '13 pricing changes really make that big of an impact?
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Can someone tell me what color(s) "Leather Dakota" is/are available for ordering it standalone on a base model for $1450? I can't seem to decipher it from the ordering guide. Thank you.
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So what is Dealer Invoice for the 2013?
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Did the '12 -> '13 pricing changes really make that big of an impact?
Sort of. Considering I generally buy off the lot as opposed to ordering, I'm more prone to have to take full packages. For MY 12 I was able to get the price of the car at around 49,000 for a 335, now a 328 is costing $48,000, and that same 335 is now up to $51,000.

Like I said, it just seems to be my financial situation that's leading to these discussions. But with that aside, a $48,000 328 just doesn't make sense to me considering I remember getting 325's for between $31,000 and $37,000, not too many years ago. Even my first e90 325 was only $38,000.
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Like I said, it just seems to be my financial situation that's leading to these discussions. But with that aside, a $48,000 328 just doesn't make sense to me considering I remember getting 325's for between $31,000 and $37,000, not too many years ago. Even my first e90 325 was only $38,000.
Maybe you should consider a 1-Series, or a 2011 E9x. Probably still some good deals to be had on 2011's.
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