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      08-19-2012, 12:04 PM   #23
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So still trying to determine:

Is the Dynamic Handling Package (Adjustable suspension) in its sportiest setting = to the Sport Suspension?

If it is, then the only advantage to getting it would be to SOFTEN the ride if you wanted.
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      08-20-2012, 11:00 AM   #24
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The lux and modern start at a higher base price as they include the prem pkg along with leather seats.
I equipped a sport and lux with the dynamic handling pkg and the sport ends up costing $300 more.

It's odd because at this point the only difference are the addition of sport seats in the sport line. I can't imagine BMW only charging $300 for sport seats if they offered them in the lux and modern lines.

In Canada, can you option the sport seats in a lux and/or modern?
If so, how much more is it?
I think they run 500 Euro in Europe. They are not a super pricey option. Do not understand why they are not a stand alone for '13 on the 3s, but for the 2013 128i and 135i they are available as a stand alone option for $400 US. pretty cool, but wish they were also available on the 3.
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So still trying to determine:

Is the Dynamic Handling Package (Adjustable suspension) in its sportiest setting = to the Sport Suspension?

If it is, then the only advantage to getting it would be to SOFTEN the ride if you wanted.
bump -- would like to get the answer to this one as well.
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bump -- would like to get the answer to this one as well.
Me too.
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According to the website and what the sales person told me, same suspension is applied for all the lines. Sport AND LUX. the sport and sport + modes are available to all lines too. The lines only differ in the following, chrome in exterior and exhaust pipe, leather uphostery color, certain exterior color , and seats . The M adaptive suspension option is different beast all together that available only in certain market. Correct me if I m wrong
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According to the website and what the sales person told me, same suspension is applied for all the lines. Sport AND LUX. the sport and sport + modes are available to all lines too. The lines only differ in the following, chrome in exterior and exhaust pipe, leather uphostery color, certain exterior color , and seats . The M adaptive suspension option is different beast all together that available only in certain market. Correct me if I m wrong
That doesn't go for every country. So you could be right or wrong. In the USA the Sport suspension is different. First of all its a more firm ride and secondly it sits 10MM lower. I am not sure if the sway bars are different as well but I also remember reading where someone had discovered there are extra coolers on the sport line I think it was oil but I cant remember.
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According to the website and what the sales person told me, same suspension is applied for all the lines. Sport AND LUX. the sport and sport + modes are available to all lines too. The lines only differ in the following, chrome in exterior and exhaust pipe, leather uphostery color, certain exterior color , and seats . The M adaptive suspension option is different beast all together that available only in certain market. Correct me if I m wrong
The Sports line sports pkg suspension is definitely different than the non-sport suspension. As ric124 said, it is firmer and 10mm lower. In the US, there are 3 suspensions: standard, sport, and adaptive. The question is how do the settings on the adaptive suspension compare to the standard and sport suspensions.
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That doesn't go for every country. So you could be right or wrong. In the USA the Sport suspension is different. First of all its a more firm ride and secondly it sits 10MM lower. I am not sure if the sway bars are different as well but I also remember reading where someone had discovered there are extra coolers on the sport line I think it was oil but I cant remember.
I guess you are refering to this one, which is an optional package available only to Sport line. unfortunately this is not available yet in my country . I guess is better to stick with sport line and take up the M sport package when available later. Does it work that way or must be upgraded beforehand ?

"M Sport Package.

Athleticism is inbred in the new BMW 3 Series. Those looking for even greater dynamic character will find just what they require in the M Sport package, including many extra equipment items. Discover its benefits – from the third quarter of 2012 at your BMW Dealer’s.

The M Sport package with its innovative equipment features is based on the athleticism of the new BMW 3 Series Sedan with Sport Line and turns to the BMW M3 for its appearance. One constituent is the M Sport suspension lowered by ten millimetres with stiffer spring and damper settings as well as harder stabilisers.
Its dynamic character is emphasised by the exclusive M Sport body colour of Estoril Blue metallic, a special aerodynamics package with numerous body components, chromium exhaust pipe finishers, modified suspension settings and M Sport light-alloy wheels with a diameter of 18 or 19 inches. Front and rear bumpers, sill covers in body colour and a striking diffusor insert in Dark Shadow Metallic on the tail underline the sporting character of the M Sport package, exploiting its visual effect to the full. "
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That doesn't go for every country. So you could be right or wrong. In the USA the Sport suspension is different. First of all its a more firm ride and secondly it sits 10MM lower. I am not sure if the sway bars are different as well but I also remember reading where someone had discovered there are extra coolers on the sport line I think it was oil but I cant remember.
I guess you are refering to this one, which is an optional package available only to Sport line. unfortunately this is not available yet in my country . I guess is better to stick with sport line and take up the M sport package when available later. Does it work that way or must be upgraded beforehand ?

"M Sport Package.

Athleticism is inbred in the new BMW 3 Series. Those looking for even greater dynamic character will find just what they require in the M Sport package, including many extra equipment items. Discover its benefits – from the third quarter of 2012 at your BMW Dealer’s.

The M Sport package with its innovative equipment features is based on the athleticism of the new BMW 3 Series Sedan with Sport Line and turns to the BMW M3 for its appearance. One constituent is the M Sport suspension lowered by ten millimetres with stiffer spring and damper settings as well as harder stabilisers.
Its dynamic character is emphasised by the exclusive M Sport body colour of Estoril Blue metallic, a special aerodynamics package with numerous body components, chromium exhaust pipe finishers, modified suspension settings and M Sport light-alloy wheels with a diameter of 18 or 19 inches. Front and rear bumpers, sill covers in body colour and a striking diffusor insert in Dark Shadow Metallic on the tail underline the sporting character of the M Sport package, exploiting its visual effect to the full. "
In the USA the sport line comes standard with sport suspension and it's the same suspension as the M Sport. I have a sport line with the optional adaptive M suspension.
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In the USA the sport line comes standard with sport suspension and it's the same suspension as the M Sport. I have a sport line with the optional adaptive M suspension.
Thanks for the clarification, I went into US website and start configuring the car. I understand now what you mean. The reason I ask is Lux and Sport line were priced at the same level over here . The only difference is changing interior , exterior color/finishing. Both lines without M sport suspension or sport suspension but variable sport steering is included for both lines along with other standard upgrade eg paddle shift,drive assist and entertainment and navigation . With Taxes all in and even with corporate discount, is still priced at USD 90k ... I felt so ripped off now....

without sport suspension , i m wondering should i insist on sport line still....
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Is the "Sport suspension" used in the Sportline consist of different springs + dampers from the other Lines, or just different springs? I believe it's only springs, but wanted to see if anyone had definitive info.
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Is the "Sport suspension" used in the Sportline consist of different springs + dampers from the other Lines, or just different springs? I believe it's only springs, but wanted to see if anyone had definitive info.
not a definite answer here but I am going to say yes they are different. Don't think springs alone would change the ride firmest that much as what is being felt between luxury to sport lines.
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not a definite answer here but I am going to say yes they are different. Don't think springs alone would change the ride firmest that much as what is being felt between luxury to sport lines.
I have since looked on realoem and it appears there's two types of struts/dampers part numbers:

- 31316791551 Front Spring Strut
- 31316791579 Front Spring Strut (for vehicles with M Sports Suspension) S704A = Yes

So I think you're right - Sportline (which I think is S704A) have different struts.
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