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      03-24-2015, 01:41 AM   #1
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Oddly enough I was only able to find 2-3 threads on the topic and the information wasn't very comprehensive.

1. I understand that BMWNA pays the remaining lease payments so does that mean you physically return the car to the dealer you leased from and then you can do the new lease at another dealer?

2. What happens if you are over mileage [if you calculate it monthly] but are still under the total allotted mileage? For example, if your lease is 30month/30k miles that means by month 24 you should only have used 24k miles...but what about if you are at 29k miles? You are under the allotted 30k miles but over what you are supposed to be at for that month.

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1. You turn in the car to the dealer where you lease the new car.

2. I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think as long as you're under the total contracted mileage you're good. I'm pretty sure I've read of folks taking advantage of a pull ahead offer to avoid having an over mileage penalty.
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How far in advance of original lease end date does the program typically kick in? 6 mo, 12 mo?
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How far in advance of original lease end date does the program typically kick in? 6 mo, 12 mo?
I think typically it is 3 months...but they are really trying to sell cars right now

I just got a letter from my dealer for a 6 month pull ahead

They also offered me a 9 month pull ahead a couple months ago
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I think typically it is 3 months...but they are really trying to sell cars right now

I just got a letter from my dealer for a 6 month pull ahead

They also offered me a 9 month pull ahead a couple months ago
I guess a lot has to do with what time of year it is and how high the demand is for the car you will be turning in.
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You have to return the car to the dealer selling you the new car and they have to agree to buy your car. The mileage must be at or under the contracted mileage. The amount of payments left does not affect the mileage. For example, if you do a pull ahead at 30 months and you have 30k miles (on a 36/10 lease) you are fine. If you are over your contracted mileage, you need to buy the extra miles online before you execute the pull ahead. I love pull ahead since they help to lower my overall mileage cost (I am always over contracted miles).
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I am going to tack on a question,

Do they do a full lease turn in inspection when you take advantage of the pull ahead? EX. Checking tire wear and scratches and dings then charge you for the repairs or does it work more like a trade in where if the dealer OKs it then they take it "as is"
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I think typically it is 3 months...but they are really trying to sell cars right now

I just got a letter from my dealer for a 6 month pull ahead

They also offered me a 9 month pull ahead a couple months ago
I guess a lot has to do with what time of year it is and how high the demand is for the car you will be turning in.
Exactly, plus the car you're buying. Pull ahead isn't always offered and sometimes is only applicable to specific cars in terms of what you're buying, more so than what you're driving. They want to sell new cars more than they want to sell your old one again. It's all about keeping your money in the brand and getting it before you're free to turn it in and buy from any brand... Think of it like a contract extension for MLB players before they hit free agency lol

I believe they also usually waive the disposition fee, but they would do that if you get any new BMW, regardless of pull ahead. But it's something you would pay if you don't get another BMW.
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Doing the pull-ahead too. Turning in car 5 months early with a few miles under contracted per-month miles. It's nice getting a new car sooner. My dealership does lease return inspections themselves (some dealers use a 3rd party). Yes, they will inspect for damage and excessive wear on tires. If you've leased before, about 3 months before the lease ends they send a "kit" in the mail. It shows you how to measure dings and if they are bigger than the tool they send you, you owe. If not, it's part of normal wear and tear. Same for tires. They give you a depth gauge. It's a fairl simple process. I always return it washed and vacuumed.
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I am going to tack on a question,

Do they do a full lease turn in inspection when you take advantage of the pull ahead? EX. Checking tire wear and scratches and dings then charge you for the repairs or does it work more like a trade in where if the dealer OKs it then they take it "as is"
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Exactly, plus the car you're buying. Pull ahead isn't always offered and sometimes is only applicable to specific cars in terms of what you're buying, more so than what you're driving. They want to sell new cars more than they want to sell your old one again. It's all about keeping your money in the brand and getting it before you're free to turn it in and buy from any brand... Think of it like a contract extension for MLB players before they hit free agency lol

I believe they also usually waive the disposition fee, but they would do that if you get any new BMW, regardless of pull ahead. But it's something you would pay if you don't get another BMW.
Doesn't matter what car you buy. the benefit of the pull ahead is to get into a new car without a penalty. Just be aware that pull a heads usually come when the rates suck. That's how they tempt people to buy cars in the slower months.
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sometimes is only applicable to specific cars in terms of what you're buying, more so than what you're driving.
Would those cars be high volume such as 328xi's or lower volume such as M cars? This interests me as the M2 is high on my radar for late '16/early '17. I'd imagine the program would be applicable to a same or higher priced vehicle (new) being leased by the consumer??
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I just did this...6 month pull ahead...

Mileage doesn't matter unless your over your contracted amount.

Had to return the car as if I was turning it in normally at lease end (OEM Tires, BMW inspection, etc.)
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sometimes is only applicable to specific cars in terms of what you're buying, more so than what you're driving.
Would those cars be high volume such as 328xi's or lower volume such as M cars? This interests me as the M2 is high on my radar for late '16/early '17. I'd imagine the program would be applicable to a same or higher priced vehicle (new) being leased by the consumer??
Not sure about that one exactly. I know the timing of the pull aheads has never worked for me, probably because the last couple cars I bought were new model years and they felt they didn't need the extra incentive. So it may be more about where each car is in its lifecycle too.. Basically if they want to create more business, or feel they have enough demand without it.. Just the sense I get anyway.
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Oddly enough I was only able to find 2-3 threads on the topic and the information wasn't very comprehensive.

1. I understand that BMWNA pays the remaining lease payments so does that mean you physically return the car to the dealer you leased from and then you can do the new lease at another dealer?

2. What happens if you are over mileage [if you calculate it monthly] but are still under the total allotted mileage? For example, if your lease is 30month/30k miles that means by month 24 you should only have used 24k miles...but what about if you are at 29k miles? You are under the allotted 30k miles but over what you are supposed to be at for that month.

Thanks
It's total mileage. If you are over, based on average, but under the total, you could stop driving the car today and return the car at the end of the lease under the total mileage.
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How about a 2 year pull ahead. That's what I want.
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Considering that I want an M235i NOW, or a 340i LATER...and keep changing my mind, I can wait (it would be an 18 month pull-ahead anyway). :-)
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My Wife's MDX, two year pull ahead, right when I needed tires. Saved $1000 on tires. Then they put her in a new MDX, with more bells and whistles for $10.00 more per month. I was skepicale on the deal until we signed and drove out.
Mid winter deal, sales were slow.
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The "inspection" performed on the 328 I turned in early was perfunctory at best, and I wasn't charged for anything (despite presence of a dent in passenger rear fender). My CA literally did a quick walk around the car, briefly looked inside through driver's door, and that was it. I got the impression that so long as you agree to lease/buy another car, the dealership isn't too particular about condition of vehicle you are turning in.

From dealer's perspective, lease pull-ahead is likely a great $ maker. You've already paid depreciation for 3 years/30k miles (or whatever your terms) through your initial deposit and interest/MF fees (i.e., your "low" monthly payments are subsidized by your initial downpayment). Dealer gets car back with fewer miles, less wear, and more value than they originally bargained for. And gets you to provide another downpayment and agree to make payment for 3 more years! No wonder they aren't too picky when you turn the car back in.

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Do they do a full lease turn in inspection when you take advantage of the pull ahead? EX. Checking tire wear and scratches and dings then charge you for the repairs or does it work more like a trade in where if the dealer OKs it then they take it "as is"
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if i do a pull ahead and i need new tires, how does that work? i am not buying tires to drive on for 2 months until my car gets here...
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if i do a pull ahead and i need new tires, how does that work? i am not buying tires to drive on for 2 months until my car gets here...
I'd imagine it'll be the same as if you were turning the car in at the normal maturity date of your lease, you'd have to replace the tires.
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if i do a pull ahead and i need new tires, how does that work? i am not buying tires to drive on for 2 months until my car gets here...

When you bring the car back, you'd have to do everything the same as if you were bringing the car back at the end of your term.

All the pull ahead does is bring your lease return date forward so you can return early with no penalty. All inspections, mileage checks are done to make sure that car is up to par in condition and under the contracted mileage.
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When I turned in my 2009 335i it needed rear tires (go figure). They took the car, I drove off with the new, and BMWFS sent me a lease closing bill for the 2 rear tires. Was easy.
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