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      01-04-2017, 10:37 AM   #1
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Morning all, I recently purchased and installed a set of Continental DWS06 on my 2015 335i. These tires are very highly rated, even more so than the outgoing model they replaced. My question is, did I make a mistake in buying a high performance all season instead of a high performance summer tire? Obviously there's no snow in FL but we do get quite a bit of rain. I have no issue spending more money or even having the tire wear out quicker if it gets me better grip and handling.

Thoughts on selling the DWS06 and getting PSS/Contisport/VentusV12/S04/etc? Will there be a noticeable difference? I do drive VERY "spirited"!
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Morning all, I recently purchased and installed a set of Continental DWS06 on my 2015 335i. These tires are very highly rated, even more so than the outgoing model they replaced. My question is, did I make a mistake in buying a high performance all season instead of a high performance summer tire? Obviously there's no snow in FL but we do get quite a bit of rain. I have no issue spending more money or even having the tire wear out quicker if it gets me better grip and handling.

Thoughts on selling the DWS06 and getting PSS/Contisport/VentusV12/S04/etc? Will there be a noticeable difference? I do drive VERY "spirited"!
Normally, at least IMO, you buy all seasons for the treadwear, not for snow/ice. Most people do alot of highway miles but still want some of the summer tire benefits without having to go through tires each year, and also the emergency "just in case" it snows randomly or don't have to rush to get your tires swapped out.

If you don't do much KM per year, and have no snow where you are, I would believe dedicated summers would suit you better, though the DWS06 are good tires so I wouldn't worry too much.

Once you run that set of tires to the ground, you can always get PSS or PS4S afterwards.
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Normally, at least IMO, you buy all seasons for the treadwear, not for snow/ice. Most people do alot of highway miles but still want some of the summer tire benefits without having to go through tires each year, and also the emergency "just in case" it snows randomly or don't have to rush to get your tires swapped out.

If you don't do much KM per year, and have no snow where you are, I would believe dedicated summers would suit you better, though the DWS06 are good tires so I wouldn't worry too much.

Once you run that set of tires to the ground, you can always get PSS or PS4S afterwards.
All Seasons perform best in No Seasons.
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Morning all, I recently purchased and installed a set of Continental DWS06 on my 2015 335i. These tires are very highly rated, even more so than the outgoing model they replaced. My question is, did I make a mistake in buying a high performance all season instead of a high performance summer tire? Obviously there's no snow in FL but we do get quite a bit of rain. I have no issue spending more money or even having the tire wear out quicker if it gets me better grip and handling.

Thoughts on selling the DWS06 and getting PSS/Contisport/VentusV12/S04/etc? Will there be a noticeable difference? I do drive VERY "spirited"!
Do the DWS06s not handle well in the rain?
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All seasons like those are fine for spirited driving but if you want the absolute best performance get summer tires. The DWS 06 will have better treadwear than all summer tires and better hydroplane resistance than everything but maybe the pilot super sports.

I think at this point just see if you're satisfied. If you're worried about having the absolute best wait til march and get the Pilot Sport 4 S
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All seasons like those are fine for spirited driving but if you want the absolute best performance get summer tires. The DWS 06 will have better treadwear than all summer tires and better hydroplane resistance than everything but maybe the pilot super sports.

I think at this point just see if you're satisfied. If you're worried about having the absolute best wait til march and get the Pilot Sport 4 S
If you read all the Reputable Independent European 2016 Tyre tests, Continental SportContact 6 outperforms MPSS in all area, including wet performance.

Furthermore, the BMW * (star) MPPS has worse wet handling than the non-star Generic MPSS. Thus one can not assume the BMW * MPSS or future models will perform as well as the generic's test results. The MPSS * are formulated of a slightly harder compound than the generic to give it longer life at the expense of handling.

New M3/M4s are arriving in USA with SC6 instead of MPSS over the past ~60 days - and most tests cars on the Nurburgring have switched to the SC6.

And you are taking a flyer assuming the MPS4 will beat it - especially considering the reputable tests comparing the two will probably not be published for 9-12 months.

At least for 2016-2017, SC6 is king.
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Morning all, I recently purchased and installed a set of Continental DWS06 on my 2015 335i. These tires are very highly rated, even more so than the outgoing model they replaced. My question is, did I make a mistake in buying a high performance all season instead of a high performance summer tire? Obviously there's no snow in FL but we do get quite a bit of rain. I have no issue spending more money or even having the tire wear out quicker if it gets me better grip and handling.

Thoughts on selling the DWS06 and getting PSS/Contisport/VentusV12/S04/etc? Will there be a noticeable difference? I do drive VERY "spirited"!
Do the DWS06s not handle well in the rain?
I haven't had any issues no
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If you read all the Reputable Independent European 2016 Tyre tests, Continental SportContact 6 outperforms MPSS in all area, including wet performance.

Furthermore, the BMW * (star) MPPS has worse wet handling than the non-star Generic MPSS. Thus one can not assume the BMW * MPSS or future models will perform as well as the generic's test results. The MPSS * are formulated of a slightly harder compound than the generic to give it longer life at the expense of handling.

New M3/M4s are arriving in USA with SC6 instead of MPSS over the past ~60 days - and most tests cars on the Nurburgring have switched to the SC6.

And you are taking a flyer assuming the MPS4 will beat it - especially considering the reputable tests comparing the two will probably not be published for 9-12 months.

At least for 2016-2017, SC6 is king.
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If you read all the Reputable Independent European 2016 Tyre tests, Continental SportContact 6 outperforms MPSS in all area, including wet performance.

Furthermore, the BMW * (star) MPPS has worse wet handling than the non-star Generic MPSS. Thus one can not assume the BMW * MPSS or future models will perform as well as the generic's test results. The MPSS * are formulated of a slightly harder compound than the generic to give it longer life at the expense of handling.

New M3/M4s are arriving in USA with SC6 instead of MPSS over the past ~60 days - and most tests cars on the Nurburgring have switched to the SC6.

And you are taking a flyer assuming the MPS4 will beat it - especially considering the reputable tests comparing the two will probably not be published for 9-12 months.

At least for 2016-2017, SC6 is king.
This is one review against how many other saying the opposite?
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Thanks for all the input. I have NO issues with the DWS6 in wet or dry but if there was a noticeably better summer tire I'd definitely consider switching. After consideration I'm going to stick with what I have.
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All seasons like those are fine for spirited driving but if you want the absolute best performance get summer tires. The DWS 06 will have better treadwear than all summer tires and better hydroplane resistance than everything but maybe the pilot super sports.

I think at this point just see if you're satisfied. If you're worried about having the absolute best wait til march and get the Pilot Sport 4 S
If you read all the Reputable Independent European 2016 Tyre tests, Continental SportContact 6 outperforms MPSS in all area, including wet performance.

Furthermore, the BMW * (star) MPPS has worse wet handling than the non-star Generic MPSS. Thus one can not assume the BMW * MPSS or future models will perform as well as the generic's test results. The MPSS * are formulated of a slightly harder compound than the generic to give it longer life at the expense of handling.

New M3/M4s are arriving in USA with SC6 instead of MPSS over the past ~60 days - and most tests cars on the Nurburgring have switched to the SC6.

And you are taking a flyer assuming the MPS4 will beat it - especially considering the reputable tests comparing the two will probably not be published for 9-12 months.

At least for 2016-2017, SC6 is king.
Well in our stock tire sizes I have yet to see Sport contact 6's available. I'm a huge Continental fan but if the tires are not available in the OEM sizes they're irrelevant to me
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Do the DWS06s not handle well in the rain?
Mine have handled great in the rain. Put almost 20000 miles on them with mostly city driving. Tread is still in good shape.
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SC6 has this disclaimer:
ROFLMAO

Last time it was 20 in St Pete was last ice age.

And the MPSS lose grip under 50.

Summer tires would give OP MUCH better results.

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This is one review against how many other saying the opposite?
I challenge you to find ANY reputable reviews of both tires against each other where MPSS won.

SC6 are on the M3s M4s coming into USA for last 60 days for a reason.
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Well in our stock tire sizes I have yet to see Sport contact 6's available. I'm a huge Continental fan but if the tires are not available in the OEM sizes they're irrelevant to me
Available if you know where to look.

I've already offered to get OP a set...have another set non OEM size (wider) brand new 15 minutes away from him.
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Well in our stock tire sizes I have yet to see Sport contact 6's available. I'm a huge Continental fan but if the tires are not available in the OEM sizes they're irrelevant to me
Available if you know where to look.

I've already offered to get OP a set...have another set non OEM size (wider) brand new 15 minutes away from him.
If you have a place in the states cool why don't you let everyone know by posting it here? I love Continental. But your coyness seems un genuine and awkward...
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If you have a place in the states cool why don't you let everyone know by posting it here? I love Continental. But your coyness seems un genuine and awkward...
OP can confirm I tried to assists if he so desires.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

And my contact does not want their info posted in a forum. I spent a great deal of time on web, search engines, emails and phone to locate the source. If you think I am going to burn that source because you want me to, I'm sorry, but that's not happening.

I offered to help OP and I also offered to help a poster in F80 forum who wanted snow tires not commonly available for his 666m. If that's coy and ungeniune, perhaps I should offer to assist no one?

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Do the DWS06s not handle well in the rain?
DWS06....as well as BMW * Version of MPSS are rated B in Europe for wet handling.

The generic version of MPSS and SC6 are rated A in Europe for wet handling.

It's a required rating in EU - sort of like EPA MPG in USA, except the Companies rate themselves.

The grades are in a range.

There are obviously differences in A rated tires and the published independent detailed tests get into the real differences.
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If you have a place in the states cool why don't you let everyone know by posting it here? I love Continental. But your coyness seems un genuine and awkward...
OP can confirm I tried to assists if he so desires.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

And my contact does not want their info posted in a forum. I spent a great deal of time on web, search engines, emails and phone to locate the source. If you think I am going to burn that source because you want me to, I'm sorry, but that's not happening.

I offered to help OP and I also offered to help a poster in F80 forum who wanted snow tires not commonly available for his 666m. If that's coy and ungeniune, perhaps I should offer to assist no one?
That doesn't look like OEM sizes. I'm just saying if the tires were available in OEM sizes they'd be more popular here. Most people have stock wheels and are uninterested in changing tire sizes
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That doesn't look like OEM sizes. I'm just saying if the tires were available in OEM sizes they'd be more popular here. Most people have stock wheels and are uninterested in changing tire sizes
All sizes are available. Your original statement implied that any SC6 was unavailable. I could have just as easily ordered Stock OEM sizes which could have arrived instead of these, just as the M3/M4s landing in the USA over the last 60 days are equipped with.

Yet if you have the BMW Parts Department look it up in their computer, it's not listed....yet.

Just because someone doesn't show them available does not mean they aren't REALLY available.

So stock size or wider than stock size, has no bearing if they would be MORE popular here (USA) as in your premise as neither are shown available in most USA locations.

And very few on bimmerpost seem to want to replace their tires with stock size - as the tire section proves (and the OP does not stock sizes either).
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