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      07-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #1
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Does the F30 have an oil dipstick?
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      07-17-2012, 02:10 PM   #2
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No dipstick, you can however check the oil level via iDrive.
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haha - sorry, I meant the other guy
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No dipstick, you can however check the oil level via iDrive.
ok, that's what i was afraid of. thanks
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ok, that's what i was afraid of. thanks
why are you afraid?
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Hasn't been a dipstick since E90 started production.
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why are you afraid?
I'm old school. I was hoping enough folks complained that BMW would bring it back.

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Hasn't been a dipstick since E90 started production.
Yeah I know, I hate it.
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The 335d E90 has a dipstick, so there is a small chance the F30 d has one
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Where are the people who have had mechanical problems resulting from the lack of a dipstick?
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      07-18-2012, 11:57 AM   #13
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Where are the people who have had mechanical problems resulting from the lack of a dipstick?
i think older people don't like it because they can't see or touch it. just like how my parents prefer physical bills to come in the mail, all mine are online because i don't need to see or touch it.
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i think older people don't like it because they can't see or touch it. just like how my parents prefer physical bills to come in the mail, all mine are online because i don't need to see or touch it.
I'm a bit like that and I'm only 42...

I want a dipstick back, I have a mechanical Swiss watch, my wife doesn't have fake boobies, I still have a manual tranny, and I want a real mechanical limited slip differential(please BMW!) on my rear wheel driven car , I like beer and not some chemical Breezer Vodka stuff.

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If you dig around on E90post there are PLENTY of people having issues with the e-dipstick. Inconsistent readings, complete failures, "stuck" levels, etc. If they were stone-cold reliable that's one thing, but come-on, this is BMW.
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If you dig around on E90post there are PLENTY of people having issues with the e-dipstick. Inconsistent readings, complete failures, "stuck" levels, etc. If they were stone-cold reliable that's one thing, but come-on, this is BMW.
I understand there have been some malfunctions, just as a dipstick can be stuck, broken, lost, etc. More interesting would be cases of damage done from not having a dipstick, which I haven't seen. From the mfr's point of view, I'm sure it's much more likely that a dipstick would be misused or unused, leading to engine damage. And the electronic version, when it's working, continuously monitors oil level. It doesn't have to wait for someone to touch it.
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. . . a dipstick can be stuck, broken, lost, etc.
If you lose dipsticks I cannot envision the problems you must have with socks.

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And the electronic version, when it's working, continuously monitors oil level.
You mean just like an oil pressure gauge and a low pressure/level warning light? Will advances never end?
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And the electronic version, when it's working, continuously monitors oil level. It doesn't have to wait for someone to touch it.
That I have no problem with - my E46 has it. It's the removal of the dipstick altogether I don't love - I propose both. I don't see a down side, other than the $10 extra cost on the car.

There was one E90 guy who got suspicious when his e-oil level always was reading max. He took it to the dealer, they drained the oil and refilled to the min level and it still read max. Sensor was dead. So in this case he could have burned enough oil to get far below the min level and never have known. Well until the oil pressure light came on - a state I'd like to avoid. A simple dipstick would have confirmed the issue. And I bet he's a 1 out of 1000 case where someone would be observant enough to notice the problem. Combine that with burning 1 quart per 1,500 miles to be "normal" per BMW and you can see where the problem comes in.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421877
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If you lose dipsticks I cannot envision the problems you must have with socks.


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Some people swear by oil extractors, where you do an oil change by sucking the oil out thru the dipstick tube.
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That I have no problem with - my E46 has it. It's the removal of the dipstick altogether I don't love - I propose both. I don't see a down side, other than the $10 extra cost on the car.

There was one E90 guy who got suspicious when his e-oil level always was reading max. He took it to the dealer, they drained the oil and refilled to the min level and it still read max. Sensor was dead. So in this case he could have burned enough oil to get far below the min level and never have known. Well until the oil pressure light came on - a state I'd like to avoid. A simple dipstick would have confirmed the issue. And I bet he's a 1 out of 1000 case where someone would be observant enough to notice the problem. Combine that with burning 1 quart per 1,500 miles to be "normal" per BMW and you can see where the problem comes in.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421877
This is really scary
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Given that sensor failure is not an uncommon occurrence in cars these days, I'd want to think that BMW has some safeguards for critical things like oil sensors?
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