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      11-14-2012, 11:35 AM   #133
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No M sport does not come with black grills, they are a 173 add on.
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      11-14-2012, 11:43 AM   #134
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BIG NEWS GUYS! My parts rep tells me the 1370 MSRP INCLUDES exhaust and Black kidney grills....I am going to double check and repost a new thread if this is confirmed, but I think it is.
This will make me so happy...
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      11-14-2012, 11:48 AM   #135
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BIG NEWS GUYS! My parts rep tells me the 1370 MSRP INCLUDES exhaust and Black kidney grills....I am going to double check and repost a new thread if this is confirmed, but I think it is.
That sounds too good to be true. Very non-BMW like.
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      11-14-2012, 11:51 AM   #136
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Financially it doesn't make sense not enough money there, I would think the price would be more around $2500-$2700 for that package
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      11-14-2012, 01:51 PM   #137
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I work for Sam Swope BMW in Louisville, ky and my none of my management have any ideal what this package includes lol. I just ordered my 335i yesterday and was able to add the PPK. It took us a week to get it ordered and part of the reason I believe is I was trying to add black kidney grilles and M exhaust. Turns out they are actually included in the PPK kit...hopefully. BMW has been doing some odd things this year.
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      11-14-2012, 06:03 PM   #138
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I work for Sam Swope BMW in Louisville, ky and my none of my management have any ideal what this package includes lol. I just ordered my 335i yesterday and was able to add the PPK. It took us a week to get it ordered and part of the reason I believe is I was trying to add black kidney grilles and M exhaust. Turns out they are actually included in the PPK kit...hopefully. BMW has been doing some odd things this year.
Can you buy this kit separately or has to be added when you order the car. my car finished production but its still in germany if i added this kit will it be to late?

I mean for 1370 it seems cheap
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      11-14-2012, 06:10 PM   #139
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You should still be able to add it before it gets to the VPC
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      11-14-2012, 06:16 PM   #140
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Yes you can still add it I did so today and my car is on the way to port of exit, as long as it hasn't left the VPC you can
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      11-14-2012, 08:11 PM   #141
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I think when you get the summer/performance tires, it triggers option code 840 for Increased Top Speed Limiter, which should include an extra cooler of some sort. Which is required for the PPK?

The thread you pointed does speak about the added cooler, but it references that all Msports get the cooler not just the ones with summer tires.
Even with the added cooler, I don't see how that would affect top speed limit. Cooling is more important at lower track speeds than at high highway speeds where there is plenty of airflow.
It makes sense that the speed limiting factor is the lower speed rating of the AS tires.
H rating is good for up to 130mph.
V rating is up to 149mph.
W rating is 168mph, and then there is Y for 186 and 186+.
To have the 155mph limiter the tires have to be at least W rated.
The AS tire options are V rated, thus they have to have a lower speed limiter.

If anyone finds anything more on this cooler having relation to the speed limiter please post.
I'm very interested in knowing if there is a relationship and why.
Please post if you find something on that.

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I don't think that's true.
But if you do have some info on that please post it.

Even if there were some added cooler, I don't see how that would affect top speed limit. The speed limiting factor is the lower speed rating of the AS tires.
If there is something with an added cooler that will be news to me.
Please post if you find something on that.
Well you'll can't have Increased Top Speed Limiter (840) without summer tires. And it is well known fact that Sport Line and M-sport cars have an extra cooler on the driver's side lower intake (where fog light would be) when they have summer tires. So the logical conclusion to be drawn is that option code 840 for Increased Top Speed Limiter adds the extra cooler.
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That sounds too good to be true. Very non-BMW like.
if that's the case, i'm going to flip out on my dealer. I highly doubt that though...they would be literally discounting it 50% off of MSRP.
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I have a sportline with sport auto and I just checked my tires. Continental ContiSportContact 5 SSR Y rated. I'm guessing my speed limit would be 155. Still curious if I need the additional cooler for the PPK.
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Can someone confirm if the PPK includes the exhaust and black out grill. I would be surprised as much as any if that was the case.

Thanks
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Read the 1st post;

Included in delivery:
New engine specifications,
M Performance intake silencer,
M Performance engine cover,
M Performance plaque for the engine compartment,
M Performance stickers for the side sills,
new engine control device (vehicles built before November 2012)

Available from November 2012.


The exhaust price is almost the price for the entire kit.
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      11-15-2012, 05:47 AM   #147
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I work for Sam Swope BMW in Louisville, ky and my none of my management have any ideal what this package includes lol. I just ordered my 335i yesterday and was able to add the PPK. It took us a week to get it ordered and part of the reason I believe is I was trying to add black kidney grilles and M exhaust. Turns out they are actually included in the PPK kit...hopefully. BMW has been doing some odd things this year.
So you are saying that you actually added just the PPK and the black kidney grilles and M exhaust are included with it? How much did that cost you to add it to your order? Is it actually $1300+ for everything?
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So you are saying that you actually added just the PPK and the black kidney grilles and M exhaust are included with it? How much did that cost you to add it to your order? Is it actually $1300+ for everything?
My car is in route to the VPC and I added Z3B and my dealer couldn't add grilles or exhaust bc they were included in the package. I think everyone is unsure if it is just a glitch at this point or a gift. I would think this is a glitch but if everything is on my car when it arrives I won't be asking any questions.
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      11-15-2012, 09:44 AM   #149
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My car is in route to the VPC and I added Z3B and my dealer couldn't add grilles or exhaust bc they were included in the package. I think everyone is unsure if it is just a glitch at this point or a gift. I would think this is a glitch but if everything is on my car when it arrives I won't be asking any questions.
I think that is all we can do at this point. Hope and wait.
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Read the 1st post;

Included in delivery:
New engine specifications,
M Performance intake silencer,
M Performance engine cover,
M Performance plaque for the engine compartment,
M Performance stickers for the side sills,
new engine control device (vehicles built before November 2012)

Available from November 2012.


The exhaust price is almost the price for the entire kit.
I really hope it includes all of this, plus the exhaust and kidney grilles.
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      11-15-2012, 10:39 PM   #151
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After my experience today with new parts for the f30,I would be even more incredulous.

BMWUSA has a light if not nonexistent grip on what fits the f30s, what part numbers are correct, and what things cost.

I will ask my dealer to ask the local rep about this for those that already purchased the grill and exhaust for a retroactive program...
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      11-16-2012, 12:18 AM   #152
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Well you'll can't have Increased Top Speed Limiter (840) without summer tires. And it is well known fact that Sport Line and M-sport cars have an extra cooler on the driver's side lower intake (where fog light would be) when they have summer tires. So the logical conclusion to be drawn is that option code 840 for Increased Top Speed Limiter adds the extra cooler.
All f30s have the cooler, it's a myth that it only comes with sportline or m-sport.
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      11-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #153
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All f30s have the cooler, it's a myth that it only comes with sportline or m-sport.
Really? So the extra oil cooler is as SamS pointed to is incorrect? http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647310

And actually, at the end, Mahzari quotes e90fleet as saying all 335's have the extra oil cooler.
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Really? So the extra oil cooler is as SamS pointed to is incorrect? http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647310

And actually, at the end, Mahzari quotes e90fleet as saying all 335's have the extra oil cooler.
Yeah its on my lux line too. All my 355i N55 F30 brothers get it.
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