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      10-03-2012, 01:40 PM   #23
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Btw , there are users who didn't even take the Hi-FI =] , I'm with Standart system and it sucks :/
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      10-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #24
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Btw , there are users who didn't even take the Hi-FI =] , I'm with Standart system and it sucks :/
Understood. Standard does suck. That's why they won't and it to the US again
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      10-06-2012, 08:25 AM   #25
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I'm really happy that this thread started and thanks for that. I thought I'm sharing some of the picture I took of my partly done install (6ch BASE system with no amp -> upgrade with MS-8 + amp(s)). Will start my own thread sometime later as the upgrade didn't really meet with my expectation yet in terms of SQ improvement and wanna ask some advice.

Front speaker adapter made from MDF:
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Base stereo front speaker versus Polk Audio db501:
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Speaker into spacer:
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Height diff OEM vs Polk:
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That's the DB401 right???
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      10-06-2012, 08:26 AM   #26
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Understood. Standard does suck. That's why they won't and it to the US again
VP - do you think the hifi in the F30 will still be a good platform from which to upgrade from with aftermarket components??? OR are we better off with the HK system?
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      10-06-2012, 07:10 PM   #27
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I think the HiFi is better unless you're going all out with a digital DA2 gateway system, but who knows when it will support the F30?
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      10-07-2012, 03:43 AM   #28
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Can anyone comment about the difference between the "Bass" knob and the 100 hrz equalizer knob? Are these the same?
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      10-07-2012, 03:18 PM   #29
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That's the DB401 right???
DB501

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WUhgPrL...dio-db501.html
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Oh wow, wouldn't think a 5" would fit anywhere, nice to know.
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      10-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #31
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Can anyone comment about the difference between the "Bass" knob and the 100 hrz equalizer knob? Are these the same?
I neglected to test these, but in general eq controls affect narrower bands of notes than a bass or table control will. In filter terms the tone controls are low-Q and the eq controls are higher-Q. I know from my listening that the bass control in these systems affects lower bass notes than the 100 slider does, that's why I turned the bass up and then the 100 slider down to tame the midbass some.

High q can be thought of as having a higher aspect ratio and lower q can be thought of as having a lower aspect ratio, like a tire.
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      10-29-2012, 01:05 PM   #32
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Thanks for the awesome thread...

I am going to take my amp from e90 and put it in my f30 335. Is there a harness for the HK in F30 to add a trunk amp/sub?
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The Technic harness works.
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      10-30-2012, 09:38 PM   #34
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What's the standard system in the 335i?
I would love to upgrade, but judging from the thread, doesn't sound like it's possible?
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There are three levels of audio system, two of which come to the US. In the US, there is the HiFi system, and there is the Premium Sound system, which carries the "harman/kardon" brand.

We are working on upgrade packages for both. The standard US-spec system is the HiFi system, which has front, rear, underseat woofers, and a center, and an amp. We are looking at upgrading that amp and the front and underseat speakers, and jettisoning the useless center channel.

The amplifier mounts, speaker adapter mounts, and woofer adapter mounts are all off to prototyping! The trunk subwoofer is ready to go to tooling. The wiring is already validated. We know what speakers we will use - we're really close! I'm hoping we have HiFi upgrade Level One and Level Two packages by Thanksgiving and the subwoofer ready by Xmas.
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^^ Can the H/K be improved by any cost-effective methods?
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^^ Can the H/K be improved by any cost-effective methods?
My answer to that question is, yes:

1) Turn off the Logic 7 processing and unplug the center channel speaker. To test this out, take a later Tom Clancy hardback or a Harry Potter hardback, fold a thick towel, sit the towel on the center speaker and sit the book on it. Now listen for a while. Sounds better.

2) We are introducing a complete plug-and-play subwoofer package by Christmas for the h/k system. Probably going to start at $995 for the completely-stock-looking, no-modification required, plug-and-play system.

We are behind my original schedule, but I like how it looks. Imagine this in matching upholstery and with a matching grille:





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Very interesting! My 335i will start production soon, so this could be perfect timing.
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Vp: will your system fit European Spec standart(non hi-fi) system ?
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For $875, can you make a better system than the HK?
HK doesn't cost $875. It costs $875 more than the cost already sunk into the 7-channel, 12-speaker (or whatever) HiFi system, which is already pretty significant. Bit if you're asking if you can start with HiFi and spend $875 and get better performance than HK, my answer is no - our upgrades to HiFi upgrade the front tweeters, the front mids, the underseat woofers, add new passive crossovers, and upgrade the amplifier, and that will add up to more than $875. Our goal is not to do better, cheaper, and neither is BMW's - it's to do better, and offer rational value.
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I notice that I never took pics of the mid from the back or side:





It's about 30mm from the back of the flange to the back of the magnet.
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What is the distance between the cone rim and the OEM grill at the door panel?
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Max depth for mid-range speakers

Hi,
Thanks for all these informations. These will be be very usefull for me.
Do you know the max mounting depth for the mid-range speakers of the front doors (F30)?
I have the stereo base audio (Europe) and I find the audio very uggly.
I want to upgrade them with 2 Focal 100 CA1 so...
Thanks a lot.
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... I'm hoping we have HiFi upgrade Level One and Level Two packages by Thanksgiving and the subwoofer ready by Xmas....
VP where are you with this - the wife's asking for Christmas present ideas

Checked your website and don't see mention of F30 packages yet
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When I go to setting -> Tone, I do not see EQ in the sub-menu. How come I do not have it? I suspected mine is Hi-Fi System.

Can someone advice.
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