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      09-05-2017, 09:03 PM   #1
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Stage 1 Dinan (N26) feedback?

I'm getting ready to take the plunge and upgrade my Dinan Sport Tune to the Dinan Stage 1 Tune for my N26. Now, I know there are "much better" tunes that I could go with but I'm a warranty freak and I want everything to match up with my extended warranty. That being said and before I do it I'm looking for some feedback from people that have gone with this tune. Overall power, response, impressions, performance? And what other modifications did you do to your car in conjunction with this tune, if any? Thanks~
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Dinan does not match/cover extended warranty, so you may consider those "much better" tunes as well.
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Dinan does not match/cover extended warranty, so you may consider those "much better" tunes as well.
I'm CPO.
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Dinan does not match/cover extended warranty, so you may consider those "much better" tunes as well.
I'm CPO.
Does not cover CPO either.

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My car presently only 24,000 on it and I bought this car used in April. So what I'm reading and trying to understand is Dinan won't stand behind anything I purchase and install? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.
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My car presently only 24,000 on it and I bought this car used in April. So what I'm reading and trying to understand is Dinan won't stand behind anything I purchase and install? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.
I see. Dinan should match the remainder of your original warranty (~1yr/26k mi), after that you'll have CPO coverage but nothing from Dinan.

I don't have first hand experience with Dinan stage 1 (though I have used bms stage 1, jb4, and dinantronics sport), but I believe it does not offers any meaningful performance gain over dinantronics sport. What it does give you is the peace of mind from backing the original BMW warranty in case the Stage 1 causes damage to your vehicle and BMW denies warranty repair before you hit 4yr/50k mi.
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I see. Dinan should match the remainder of your original warranty (~1yr/26k mi), after that you'll have CPO coverage but nothing from Dinan.

I don't have first hand experience with Dinan stage 1 (though I have used bms stage 1, jb4, and dinantronics sport), but I believe it does not offers any meaningful performance gain over dinantronics sport. What it does give you is the peace of mind from backing the original BMW warranty in case the Stage 1 causes damage to your vehicle and BMW denies warranty repair before you hit 4yr/50k mi.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm sorry to pull you through the ringer like that. I may stop into my dealership next week just to make sure and confirm everything.
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but I'm a warranty freak and I want everything to match up with my extended warranty.
You're aware that there's no vehicle warranty for the Dinan Sports Tune, right? It's just a 1 year product warranty.

Plus the aftermarket intake may void CPO drivetrain warranty.

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Thanks for the clarification. I'm sorry to pull you through the ringer like that. I may stop into my dealership next week just to make sure and confirm everything.
And... lvblkjack is correct on the Dinan warranty. Only applies to the new car warranty (4 years or 50,000 miles (80,000 kilometers in Canada)) - not CPO. For purchases after the new car warranty, Dinan only warranties the Dinan product for 2 years. https://www.dinancars.com/warranty/
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You're aware that there's no vehicle warranty for the Dinan Sports Tune, right? It's just a 1 year product warranty.

Plus the aftermarket intake may void CPO drivetrain warranty.



And... lvblkjack is correct on the Dinan warranty. Only applies to the new car warranty (4 years or 50,000 miles (80,000 kilometers in Canada)) - not CPO. For purchases after the new car warranty, Dinan only warranties the Dinan product for 2 years. https://www.dinancars.com/warranty/
Thank you. I'm aware of the Sport Tune warranty. I'm aware of the CPO warranty as I would change my intake back to stock before service. I'm just trying to get some feedback on the Dinan Stage 1 CPU tune if anyone has done it.
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Your going to get mixed reviews here, just get it and what happens, happens man. The stage 1 piggy backs are all the same mostly its a great upgrade from stock and worth the cost get a carly obd and app to monitor. Take care of the care and it will take care of you.

With the stage one you'll have no problem keeping up with most 300hp cars, also code SA trans if you get the chance.

As for your warranty if the shit blows it blows take it in and do what you got to do to fix it. You will hear horror stories here and good ones as well. Don't let the fear mongering stop you. Just my opinion.
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Your going to get mixed reviews here, just get it and what happens, happens man. The stage 1 piggy backs are all the same mostly its a great upgrade from stock and worth the cost get a carly obd and app to monitor. Take care of the care and it will take care of you.

With the stage one you'll have no problem keeping up with most 300hp cars, also code SA trans if you get the chance.

As for your warranty if the shit blows it blows take it in and do what you got to do to fix it. You will hear horror stories here and good ones as well. Don't let the fear mongering stop you. Just my opinion.
That's an honest solid perspective. Thank you. I guess I'm wondering if I'll get more performance from the Dinan Stage 1 than my Dinan Sport Tune. I would hate to water the money. I wonder how the compare?
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Possibly a bit more but i doubt going from sport to stage one is cost effective per the gain.
I have used neither so i cannot give fist hand experience. In my honest opnion go for JB4, more options and future mod friendly, cost effective. You could also bench/flash tune if your local to anyone good. Tuning Tech Frank Smith in MD i recommend.
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Possibly a bit more but i doubt going from sport to stage one is cost effective per the gain.
I have used neither so i cannot give fist hand experience. In my honest opnion go for JB4, more options and future mod friendly, cost effective. You could also bench/flash tune if your local to anyone good. Tuning Tech Frank Smith in MD i recommend.

Thanks bud.
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Possibly a bit more but i doubt going from sport to stage one is cost effective per the gain.
I have used neither so i cannot give fist hand experience. In my honest opnion go for JB4, more options and future mod friendly, cost effective. You could also bench/flash tune if your local to anyone good. Tuning Tech Frank Smith in MD i recommend.
Dinan Sport Tune states: DINANTRONICS Sport Maximum Gains Up to 30 HP, 50 lb-ft of torque

Dinan Stage 1: Stage 1 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner ONLY) Maximum Power: 312 HP, 330 lb-ft of torque.

I wonder if there are dyno results out there comparing or showing the stated results? Hmmmm...?

From what I'm seeing Stage 1 would be the way to go over the Sport Tune if sticking with Dinan.
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Dinan Sport Tune states: DINANTRONICS Sport Maximum Gains Up to 30 HP, 50 lb-ft of torque

Dinan Stage 1: Stage 1 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner ONLY) Maximum Power: 312 HP, 330 lb-ft of torque.

I wonder if there are dyno results out there comparing or showing the stated results? Hmmmm...?

From what I'm seeing Stage 1 would be the way to go over the Sport Tune if sticking with Dinan.
312 HP, 330 lb-ft of torque is for N20.

295 HP, 327 lb-ft of torque for N26 with Stage 1.



290 HP, 332 lb-ft of torque for N20/N26 with Dinantronics Sport.

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312 HP, 330 lb-ft of torque is for N20.

295 HP, 327 lb-ft of torque for N26 with Stage 1.



290 HP, 332 lb-ft of torque for N20/N26 with Dinantronics Sport.

You sir just saved me a bunch of money...
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My 2cents.
Talk to your dealer. You will be under warranty with dinan for their full stage 1 tune until original warranty is up. From there on out under CPO, Dinan won't help. Yet, as long as you have no other mods except for the dinan stage 1...alot of dealers won't care and will honor the CPO. So talk to them first.

As far as sport vs stage 1. Likely not a bunch more power but more about the driving experience. The stage 1 is going to produce a much smoother and safer product, while squeezing out a bit more power ( at least that is how they advertise it).

Honestly, I have yet to see anyone go from sport to stage 1 so I think you would do us all a service by trying it out and giving your review!!
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My 2cents.
Talk to your dealer. You will be under warranty with dinan for their full stage 1 tune until original warranty is up. From there on out under CPO, Dinan won't help. Yet, as long as you have no other mods except for the dinan stage 1...alot of dealers won't care and will honor the CPO. So talk to them first.

As far as sport vs stage 1. Likely not a bunch more power but more about the driving experience. The stage 1 is going to produce a much smoother and safer product, while squeezing out a bit more power ( at least that is how they advertise it).

Honestly, I have yet to see anyone go from sport to stage 1 so I think you would do us all a service by trying it out and giving your review!!
I appreciate your feedback but with the dyno results I've just seen I'm not sure if I can now justify the $1500 for the CPU Stage 1. There is a place up the road from me that has a dyno. I'm thinking about spending the $100 bucks and going to have a few pulls done to see how my car is running presently.
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I appreciate your feedback but with the dyno results I've just seen I'm not sure if I can now justify the $1500 for the CPU Stage 1. There is a place up the road from me that has a dyno. I'm thinking about spending the $100 bucks and going to have a few pulls done to see how my car is running presently.
Makes total sense.

I'd like to think I'd look and try to snag a stage 1 on the used market. Seen them for $600 upwards to a grand. That is, if I ever go that route.

GL and let us know how it goes
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Dinan makes a reliable product, results are not as aggressive as other tunes.

If warranty is your main concern, Dinan is the way to go.

If you are looking for most power and features, go with a JB4
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Dinan makes a reliable product, results are not as aggressive as other tunes.

If warranty is your main concern, Dinan is the way to go.

If you are looking for most power and features, go with a JB4
I'm happy with my Dinan tune. I don't want to push my car's engine into the "danger zone". Also by judging the Dyno results posted above it would be silly of me to spend $1,500 to get the same results as I'm having with the $300 Sport Tune plug in play.
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I'm happy with my Dinan tune. I don't want to push my car's engine into the "danger zone". Also by judging the Dyno results posted above it would be silly of me to spend $1,500 to get the same results as I'm having with the $300 Sport Tune plug in play.
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