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      08-27-2015, 01:08 AM   #1
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Be careful of this scam when selling

I have a car for sale, listed on one of the major online websites. I was contacted by someone claiming to be interested in purchasing the car as a wedding present for his fiancee.

The would be buyer wanted to know that I had a safety/roadworthy certificate for the car and would I provide it to him. Knowing I had to have a certificate selling privately I provided a photo of the certificate by SMS to the callers mobile phone. The buyer did not come to view the car and subsequent calls to the phone went unanswered.

Fast-forward a month and I was contacted by a bank who wanted me to confirm if I still had the car or if I'd received funds for it's sale. Turns out that the buyer I had spoken with previously had obtained finance for the purchase and had funds transferred to a bank account they controlled. They use the information on the roadworthy certificate to allow the bank to take an encumbrance on the vehicle (which they are removing due to the fraud). Apparently the bank identified my case as one similar to a number of others.

I'm pleased that they found it because I wouldn't have been impressed if the encumbrance came up unexpectedly when have a buyer!
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wow that's a close call.

I mean there are some terrible scams on people selling cars, common one is "I am away on deployment and need you to deposit funds via western union bla bla", but that sort of enquiry would be hard to differentiate between a scam and a legit buyer.
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Just wondering how the bank can take encumbrance of the vehicle if you haven't actually signed any paper work or agreed to the sale?
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Just wondering how the bank can take encumbrance of the vehicle if you haven't actually signed any paper work or agreed to the sale?
There were a lot of forged and fraudulent documents to support the transaction.
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Right, makes sense then if they went to those lengths to attempt to 'steal' your car!
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Thanks for the heads up. And glad it was detected very quickly!

Did the buyer really think they were going to get away with it? Or did they flee the country with extra $$ in their pocket..
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Thanks for the heads up. And glad it was detected very quickly!

Did the buyer really think they were going to get away with it? Or did they flee the country with extra $$ in their pocket..
Apparently got away with it on more than one occasion from what I can tell!

Bear in mind false identities are being used here too. They really knew the processes and the systems in place.
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Thanks for the heads up. And glad it was detected very quickly!

Did the buyer really think they were going to get away with it? Or did they flee the country with extra $$ in their pocket..
Apparently got away with it on more than one occasion from what I can tell!

Bear in mind false identities are being used here too. They really knew the processes and the systems in place.
Woah. That's quite elaborate. A new alias for every fraud hey? Any leads on the guy?
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Woah. That's quite elaborate. A new alias for every fraud hey? Any leads on the guy?
Yes. Rumour has it he/she drives a Canyonero...
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Haha - I think I know that guy too. What a thug.
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