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      08-26-2015, 06:27 PM   #1
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M Performance Brakes & Aftermarket 18s for Winter

Folks, any one with experience fitting cheap 18s as a 2nd set of wheels for winter use over top of the M performance brakes?

Currently looking at enkei or VMRs in 18x8 or 18x8.5 and wanted to see what caliper interference issues may exist.
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Odd that if you use Tire Rack's configurator and select M sport brakes as Additional Model Info they don't show any wheels as available.

Tried this for a 2015 435i GC X M sport
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Folks, any one with experience fitting cheap 18s as a 2nd set of wheels for winter use over top of the M performance brakes?

Currently looking at enkei or VMRs in 18x8 or 18x8.5 and wanted to see what caliper interference issues may exist.
Why don't you use your OEM 18" wheels for winter tires and purchase a nice set of 18" wheels for the track/summer?
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It's one of the options I'm considering... Just like the idea of sub $1K set of wheels for winter abuse and keep the factory stuff clean.
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You will be fine with either of those. I have a very similar wheel to the VMR's in 18 x 8.5 and they fit great. VRM's are at the lower end of the cost spectrum but still a nice looking wheel. Build quality seems pretty good. Perfect for a winter wheel.
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You will be fine with either of those. I have a very similar wheel to the VMR's in 18 x 8.5 and they fit great. VRM's are at the lower end of the cost spectrum but still a nice looking wheel. Build quality seems pretty good. Perfect for a winter wheel.
What wheel specifically? And M perf not M sport brakes, correct? Thx!
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What wheel specifically? And M perf not M sport brakes, correct? Thx!
They are the "same" from a dimensions standpoint. The main difference is the use of different rotors.
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They are the "same" from a dimensions standpoint. The main difference is the use of different rotors.
M perf is the same as M sport for 335 but not M sport for 328...
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M-Performance brakes are not the same as the M-Sport brake option on the F30 335i. M-Performance brakes have dimpled/slotted rotors and the calipers are available in three colors (yellow, orange, red). M-Sport brakes have plain rotors and blue calipers.

For fitment, however, they are the same - both have 370mm front and 345mm rear rotors. Both require 18" or larger wheels.

I have M-Performance brakes on my F30 with BMW OEM 400M 18x8" wheels (square setup).
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What wheel specifically? And M perf not M sport brakes, correct? Thx!
I have the M package on my car so I have the large M-sport brakes. The wheels look like a VMR wheel but they are made by someone else. A friend of a friend was importing wheels from Asia and supplies them to several local shops including a BMW dealer.
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Hey guys! Sorry I'm late! Just wanted to clarify the M-Sport brake clearance concerns.

The M-Sport Brake upgrade on the 335i/435i (Blue Brakes) DO NOT clear the inside of our 18" wheels. However, the M-Sport brake upgrade on the 328i/428i (Blue Brakes) will clear.

If you are looking for 18 or 19 inch winter solutions, we've got you covered! Contact me for details!
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Hey guys! Sorry I'm late! Just wanted to clarify the M-Sport brake clearance concerns.

The M-Sport Brake upgrade on the 335i/435i (Blue Brakes) DO NOT clear the inside of our 18" wheels. However, the M-Sport brake upgrade on the 328i/428i (Blue Brakes) will clear.

If you are looking for 18 or 19 inch winter solutions, we've got you covered! Contact me for details!
And therefore no M Performance upgrades will clear your 18s across the entire f3x lineup, correct?
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And therefore no M Performance upgrades will clear your 18s across the entire f3x lineup, correct?
Yes.
Because there are two style / sizes of M Sport Brakes. One M Sport Brake style has the same dimensions as the M Performance Brakes = 370mm front rotors, and the other M Sport Brake style has the smaller 340mm front rotor.

In the US M Sport Brake for 335i comes with 370mm front brake rotor and therefore equals the M Performance brake dimensions.
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Folks, any one with experience fitting cheap 18s as a 2nd set of wheels for winter use over top of the M performance brakes?

Currently looking at enkei or VMRs in 18x8 or 18x8.5 and wanted to see what caliper interference issues may exist.
If the 18" VMRs will not clear, you should try APEX wheels. They will clear.
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I had the very same concerns with my 328i with the M-Sport brakes. I ended up calling Tire Rack and the specialist there was able to provide guidance the went well beyond what the web configurator could.
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And therefore no M Performance upgrades will clear your 18s across the entire f3x lineup, correct?
I believe that is correct.

I'm in the same boat. I have M performance brakes with m405 wheels and need to find a set of 18's for winter. I think 18x8 35mm offset should work.

If anyone knows for sure, please chime in.
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And therefore no M Performance upgrades will clear your 18s across the entire f3x lineup, correct?
Yes, unfortunately, that is the case. The issue lies in the barrel clearance.
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And therefore no M Performance upgrades will clear your 18s across the entire f3x lineup, correct?
I believe that is correct.

I'm in the same boat. I have M performance brakes with m405 wheels and need to find a set of 18's for winter. I think 18x8 35mm offset should work.

If anyone knows for sure, please chime in.
I purchased a set of 18" Moda wheels from Tire Rack and they cleared M Sport Performance Brakes on a 2013 328i. I'd also check out Finishline Wheels for BMW OEM wheels and Wheels & Caps both online.
18" OEM under $200 each. Buying OEM you know they will clear. Also better quality then some of the Chinese junk that's out there.
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I believe that is correct.

I'm in the same boat. I have M performance brakes with m405 wheels and need to find a set of 18's for winter. I think 18x8 35mm offset should work.

If anyone knows for sure, please chime in.
I run 18" winter Setup with my M Performance Brakes
Pirelli Sottozero Series II on the BMW M400 Wheels
Front = 225/45R18 91H / 8Jx18" Offset 34mm
Rear = 255/40R18 95H / 8.5Jx18" Offset 47mm

(You could also run 225/45 with the 8J18" 34mm wheel on the rear, instead of 255/40)
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M-Performance brakes are not the same as the M-Sport brake option on the F30 335i. M-Performance brakes have dimpled/slotted rotors and the calipers are available in three colors (yellow, orange, red). M-Sport brakes have plain rotors and blue calipers.

For fitment, however, they are the same - both have 370mm front and 345mm rear rotors. Both require 18" or larger wheels.

I have M-Performance brakes on my F30 with BMW OEM 400M 18x8" wheels (square setup).
Do you know if they are the same for caliper clearance?

On tirerack if I enter in 2013 335 msport I get a lot of 18" wheels but if I enter in m performance brakes I get 4 options.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...taggered+Tires
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