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      10-28-2012, 05:33 AM   #23
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1-Turn up volume on your sound system (you ordered premium sound, right?)
2-Turn it off
3-avoid fog
4-do not use it.
5-agree
6-do not go to west virginia

Really, these are your complaints?
Yea they are,
1. Never heard a squealing so bad as the one my car makes, I think that the 50k I paid must include the "not squealing option". (Or am I asking too much? Please tell me)

2. You say turn it off, I say why can I don't turn it on instead of off. I do not know how this did not annoyed the engineers at BMW.(probably asking too much)

3. Do not really car about his too much, just wanna know the reason.

4. My 3 year old Garmin is better than the one in the car.
A.you saw do not use ( really?is that the answer)
B. some say voice command ( I agree but I am Germany,try o pronounce anything)

6. West va was an example, just hate the limited freedom of maneuver. I am pretty sure that there are many places where you cannot find a BMW dealer, run flat tires store with the size you need in a 200 mile radius.

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      10-28-2012, 07:22 AM   #24
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Is the mileage that different? I average 25.5-28.5 in my 335 with 50% of less freeway driving.
This is the same argument 328i owners try to make about the power difference "is the power really that different?"

328=slightly less power, better mpg
335=slightly less MPG, more power

BTW, how did this thread turn in to a 328i vs 335i discussion?
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I actually like the runflats. I've gotten 2 flats before in my z4, but I was able to drive back to my local tire shop to get them replaced. The whole point is that you can still drive on it for ~50 miles!!!

I like the runflats as well, this is my fifth car with them. Never had a flat, but like knowing I have the capability when traveling 100+mph on the autobahns.
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      10-28-2012, 09:24 AM   #26
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BTW, how did this thread turn in to a 328i vs 335i discussion?
You're joking right? Every thread on this forum turns into a 328 vs 335 pissing match!
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      10-28-2012, 09:46 AM   #27
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Rather than 335i you should say F30 because most of the issues mentioned here are for the 3 series in general not the 335i.

I'm going to be the devil's advocate here just for the sake of it:


6. Agree on that. Run flats are crap and should be ditched and a spare provided like any other car. However, if you have insurance, road side assistance will probably be covered. But I don't know what they can do for you if you don't have a spare, never tested it.

I think if these are the cons of F30 then we are in pretty good shape!
I think you're sadly mistakin i dont think you fully understand how good runflats are untill you hit a nail in middle of nowhere and dont have to exit your vehicle you'lle understand.

Iv'e been driving with runflats for 12 years 330i, E90 335i, F30 335i i know the importance of run flats
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      10-28-2012, 09:51 AM   #28
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Yea they are,
1. Never heard a squealing so bad as the one my car makes, I think that the 50k I paid must include the "not squealing option". (Or am I asking too much? Please tell me)

6. West va was an example, just hate the limited freedom of maneuver. I am pretty sure that there are many places where you old not find a BMW dealer, run flat tires store with the size you need in a 200 mile radius.
Okay but if you get a massive blow out you can put Regular tires on your car?
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      10-28-2012, 10:22 AM   #29
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4. My 3 year old Garmin is better than the one in the car.
Yes, much better in many ways. It is frustrating how poor the BMW navigation system is.
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      10-28-2012, 10:30 AM   #30
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Like any hot chick in the club, there is a ugly chick around her.

1. Hate squealing brakes
2. Hate auto stop default option
3. No fog lights, not a big deal but why Europeans get it and not us.
4. Navigation, a lil bit to inconvenient to use. Have to use the roller to type address (tip for BMW: touch screen)
5. BMW apps should be added with no extra fee.
6. Space saver tired. I understand the purpose of run flat and the fact that BMW is getting rid of unnecessary weight, but what if you have a complete blow out on the hills of West Virginia?
Auto stop start not such a big deal to me. Agree with the BMW Apps.

I personally think that this navigation system is pretty nice compared to the last generation with just a couple route hiccups. My brakes don't squeal.
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      10-28-2012, 05:40 PM   #31
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This is my second 335i (third 3-series since 2007). Love the car. Not had a problem with #1. #2 was programmed out. #3 solved with a Sportline (if I wanted a real M I would have gotten one). My Garmin is better than anything BMW ever had so #4 is a non-issue. Don't care about apps. I wanna drive my car, not have it be an extension of my iPhone (thus #5 is done). Who cares about a spare? If I get stuck, I sit by the car, enjoy it's beauty and wait for a flatbed. No car is perfect nor will one satisfy everyone....but I'm thrilled with the 3-series.
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      10-28-2012, 06:18 PM   #32
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navigation integration with HUD is a great feature. might not be the best navigation system available, but getting directions through HUD definitely beats stand alone units.
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      10-28-2012, 06:40 PM   #33
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. . . getting directions through HUD definitely beats stand alone units.
This is a nice aspect of the system.

Unfortunately, entering the address, the routing, the information presented, etc. is all inferior to even a basic portable unit. I would be delighted to forgo directional display in the HUD for a quality navigation system which works.
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oneTE=Elk;12906his is a nice aspect of the system.

Unfortunately, entering the address, the routing, the information presented, etc. is all inferior to even a basic portable unit. I would be delighted to forgo directional display in the HUD for a quality navigation system which works.[/quote]

I hate spending one on built in units, but the HUD in the tech package sealed the deal for me... I think BMW really made the F30 a modern driving ultimate driving machine, since I no longer take my eyes off the road.
Try the "enter address" feature on the nav, one a forum member pointed it out to me, I haven't used the idrive since...
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i sent addresses through google maps most of the time then let HUD lead the way. never had a problem.
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i shaven't tried tbisdresses through google maps most of the time then let HUD lead the way. never had a problem.
Through enhanced BT iOS6?
I haven't t this yet.. How?
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You're joking right? Every thread on this forum turns into a 328 vs 335 pissing match!
It would seem so.
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Through enhanced BT iOS6?
I haven't t this yet.. How?
through my laptop usually, though my phone would work too. the "more" link from google maps allows you to send to your car. type in your BMW Assist username and it shows up in your office messages. Open the message and you can make it your new destination.
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      10-28-2012, 08:43 PM   #39
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Really...no one has mentioned the steering? My 335i sport floats and there's absolutely no road feedback in the steering wheel. I'm glad I'm leasing... BMW has 3 years to perfect electronic assist steering...or I'm out.
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OP, I'm surprised that you didn't put

- Impossible to drive as designed in U.S.

in your list.

Not trying to raise the post count here, but this is my absolutely FIRST complaint with N55 engine in my car. And it gets more and more aggravating as the time passes. Picked it up at the US dealer mid-July 2010 and it is not getting any better as the time passes.

No, I'm not talking Autobahn which exists in only ONE country on Earth, I'm talking about how driving in general in U.S. impedes you to fully use your hard-earned $50,000 on ALL roads.
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This is my second 335i (third 3-series since 2007). Love the car. Not had a problem with #1. #2 was programmed out. #3 solved with a Sportline (if I wanted a real M I would have gotten one). My Garmin is better than anything BMW ever had so #4 is a non-issue. Don't care about apps. I wanna drive my car, not have it be an extension of my iPhone (thus #5 is done). Who cares about a spare? If I get stuck, I sit by the car, enjoy it's beauty and wait for a flatbed. No car is perfect nor will one satisfy everyone....but I'm thrilled with the 3-series.
Hey dont get me wrong, I love the car. I just feel that they are simple fixes that did not take place.
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OP, I'm surprised that you didn't put

- Impossible to drive as designed in U.S.

in your list.

Not trying to raise the post count here, but this is my absolutely FIRST complaint with N55 engine in my car. And it gets more and more aggravating as the time passes. Picked it up at the US dealer mid-July 2010 and it is not getting any better as the time passes.

No, I'm not talking Autobahn which exists in only ONE country on Earth, I'm talking about how driving in general in U.S. impedes you to fully use your hard-earned $50,000 on ALL roads.

You are right,
I will be going back to the US in a year, need to learn how to drive below 70 MPH... but in the mean time, I am comming out with excuses to drive in the autobahn every weekend.
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The runflats gotta go and the brake dust is extreme.
Extreme? You gotta be kiddin. It's all relative I guess. I'm getting barely any brake dust, although I'm comparing the 335i to the A4 that I had for the past 3 years. Audi definitely takes the cake for being extreme brake dust monsters.
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LOL...I come from an Mitsu Evo, where brake dust caked EVERYTHING on my rims. The BMW 335i is tame from my perspective...so tame, in fact, I want to get more extreme, squealing pads..
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