F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > Sport Automatic Transmission
Extreme Power House
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-30-2012, 11:07 PM   #1
RWD4Life
Second Lieutenant
RWD4Life's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
220
Posts

 
Drives: R56 MINI
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Massachusetts

iTrader: (0)

Sport Automatic Transmission

Hi All,

I'm in the process of buying a 328i M Sport. Does anyone know if there is significant difference between the regular AT and the Sport AT?
Still don't get why a Golf GTI offers a dual clutch and not a BMW M Sport...
Thanks for your inputs!
Appreciate 0
      10-30-2012, 11:25 PM   #2
justinnum1
Brigadier General
63
Rep
4,007
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 335i Msport
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

yes.

from someone who hjas driven VAG dsg zf8sport is better

shifts just as quick if not quicker and the efficiceny is unreal
__________________
F30 335i Msport Estoril Blue/Black leather sport auto. black grills, Performance Exhaust, HK,
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 04:04 AM   #3
J1n
Lieutenant Colonel
27
Rep
1,548
Posts

 
Drives: R8 V8 '14
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Melbourne CBD

iTrader: (0)

A must have
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 09:56 AM   #4
SomeRandomer123
Colonel
SomeRandomer123's Avatar
England
89
Rep
2,572
Posts

 
Drives: F30 328i Luxury - Sport Auto
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Lancashire, North West England, UK

iTrader: (0)

There are so many bloody threads on this it's ridiculous.
Bascially, the Sport Auto is better than the standard auto in every area and that's not opinion, that's fact so don't let anybody tell you differently.
I didn't feel the standard auto responded or shifted quickly enough, and therefore gave power interruptions which were constant as there are 8 cogs to go through.
The Sport Auto is telepathically good and super smooth in D. And then when you want some fun, DS and Manual mode (M/S) has the car bang through the gears like a DCT transmission - it really is unbelievably quick and responsive.
Aesthetically, you get a nicer gear lever, a nice leather surround (instead of plastic), and flappy paddles. It also adds Sport+ to the car if you do not have Adaptive M Suspension.
So the standard auto is good, but for the little bit extra, you might as well purchase perfection.
__________________

Gone: 2006 BMW E60 520d SE 6MT
Gone: 2009 BMW E90-LCI 330d SE 6MT
Current: 2012 F30 328i Luxury 8AT
My 328i initial thoughts + media!http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712673
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:15 AM   #5
webdither
Lieutenant
United_States
17
Rep
578
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 335i M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by J1n View Post
A must have
+1 Hands down the beset bang for your buck option.
__________________
2014 M235i | July 2nd Euro Delivery | Manual | Estoril Blue / Terra | Tech, Premium, HK Audio, & Driver Assist | M Performance Exhaust, Stainless Steel Pedals, Black Kidney Grilles

Euro Delivery Trip Report
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:15 AM   #6
PGT
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
281
Posts

 
Drives: 328i M-Sport in Estoril Blue
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Leesburg, VA

iTrader: (0)

The Sport Auto is the only transmission to get if you're at all concerned about driving performance and can't live with a manual.
__________________
| '13 328i M Sport - Estoril Blue | '12 300C SRT8 | '12 Wrangler Rubi Unlimited - COD MW3 Edition|
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:26 PM   #7
hans007
First Lieutenant
3
Rep
302
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 328i estoril blue
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: culver city, ca

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123 View Post
There are so many bloody threads on this it's ridiculous.
Bascially, the Sport Auto is better than the standard auto in every area and that's not opinion, that's fact so don't let anybody tell you differently.
I didn't feel the standard auto responded or shifted quickly enough, and therefore gave power interruptions which were constant as there are 8 cogs to go through.
The Sport Auto is telepathically good and super smooth in D. And then when you want some fun, DS and Manual mode (M/S) has the car bang through the gears like a DCT transmission - it really is unbelievably quick and responsive.
Aesthetically, you get a nicer gear lever, a nice leather surround (instead of plastic), and flappy paddles. It also adds Sport+ to the car if you do not have Adaptive M Suspension.
So the standard auto is good, but for the little bit extra, you might as well purchase perfection.
the sad thing is its actaully the same transmission underneath. just with a different shift pattern program, and the paddle shifters and the leather surround.

i ordered it. i think $500 honestly is a justifiable price. i mean if most people don't want to pay for the work that went into developing that shift program then thats fair. totally worth buying from what i've read , when i see sport / m-sport trims on lots without it, it hink it is a shame.
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:38 PM   #8
RWD4Life
Second Lieutenant
RWD4Life's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
220
Posts

 
Drives: R56 MINI
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Massachusetts

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hans007 View Post
the sad thing is its actaully the same transmission underneath. just with a different shift pattern program, and the paddle shifters and the leather surround.

i ordered it. i think $500 honestly is a justifiable price. i mean if most people don't want to pay for the work that went into developing that shift program then thats fair. totally worth buying from what i've read , when i see sport / m-sport trims on lots without it, it hink it is a shame.
I completely agree with on the shame part. I get the feeling that most BMW drivers today are looking for luxury appliances rather than the ultimate driving machine. Die hard bimmer fans are an extinct species...
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:45 PM   #9
webdither
Lieutenant
United_States
17
Rep
578
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 335i M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by RWD4Life View Post
I completely agree with on the shame part. I get the feeling that most BMW drivers today are looking for luxury appliances rather than the ultimate driving machine. Die hard bimmer fans are an extinct species...
It used to be that you added the Sport Package and you got the Ultimate Driving Machine. Now you have to know to get Sport/MSport and then add DHP (Mainly for VSS) and the Sport Auto (if not manual) to get to what truly has the characteristics expected in a sport sedan.

Really I only fault them for doing a terrible job of explaining both DHP and Sport Auto on the website. If you didn't do a lot of research on forums such as this or have a very knowledgeable CA (which is super hard to find, I always know more than the CA) then you could end up not getting what you expect out of your $50k+ sport sedan.

IMO if you pick Sport or M Sport those two options should be included, at the very least VSS & the Sport Program for the Transmission. Make the paddles and adaptive suspension the options even.

Ah well, that's just if I ran the company
__________________
2014 M235i | July 2nd Euro Delivery | Manual | Estoril Blue / Terra | Tech, Premium, HK Audio, & Driver Assist | M Performance Exhaust, Stainless Steel Pedals, Black Kidney Grilles

Euro Delivery Trip Report
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2012, 10:50 PM   #10
hans007
First Lieutenant
3
Rep
302
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 328i estoril blue
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: culver city, ca

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by webdither View Post
It used to be that you added the Sport Package and you got the Ultimate Driving Machine. Now you have to know to get Sport/MSport and then add DHP (Mainly for VSS) and the Sport Auto (if not manual) to get to what truly has the characteristics expected in a sport sedan.

Really I only fault them for doing a terrible job of explaining both DHP and Sport Auto on the website. If you didn't do a lot of research on forums such as this or have a very knowledgeable CA (which is super hard to find, I always know more than the CA) then you could end up not getting what you expect out of your $50k+ sport sedan.

IMO if you pick Sport or M Sport those two options should be included, at the very least VSS & the Sport Program for the Transmission. Make the paddles and adaptive suspension the options even.

Ah well, that's just if I ran the company

i totally agree. i mean the paddles being seperate from sport/m-sport was a bit much , plus its $500 . on the e92 right now, its $100 extra for paddles / different shift lever on top of m-sport. doubt it adds shift logic, but its only $100...
Appreciate 0
      11-01-2012, 12:50 AM   #11
ducatiboy72
Private First Class
Norway
5
Rep
109
Posts

 
Drives: F31 M-Sport
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Norway

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I think this depends on if you are living in Europe or the USA. In USA everyone seems to agree the sport auto is faster. In Europe they are the same except the paddle shifters and different gear knob/leather.
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2012, 03:49 AM   #12
awwwyeah206
Private
3
Rep
51
Posts

 
Drives: 335
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Is the comfort mode in the sport auto even different than the standard auto?
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2012, 10:55 AM   #13
bosz
Captain
bosz's Avatar
24
Rep
708
Posts

 
Drives: F30 335i Ordered
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

This is not even a question to be asked, sport auto for sure. It shifts so fast that sometimes u truly believe its on par with dual clutch trannies
__________________
**JB Stage 1** 2012 F30 335i/BSM/Coral Red Interior/Diamond Black Trim/Premium Pack/BMW Apps/Ext Blue Tooth/Sirius XM/Sport Auto W/Paddle Shifters/Sport Suspension/Meisterschaft Super GT Exhaust
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2012, 11:58 AM   #14
SPACEMANRICK
Lieutenant
Canada
9
Rep
438
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 335 Xdrive
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: VANCOUVER

iTrader: (0)

Coming from manual shifting in my last 3 BMW's (2002 335XI, 2006 330I, and 2008 335 XI) I am still not 100% sold on the 8 speed sport automatic in my 335 Xdrive, but one thing for sure, it sure shifts faster and smoother than I can with a manual gearbox.........
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2012, 12:21 PM   #15
jzcrna
Captain
31
Rep
904
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by webdither
Quote:
Originally Posted by RWD4Life View Post
I completely agree with on the shame part. I get the feeling that most BMW drivers today are looking for luxury appliances rather than the ultimate driving machine. Die hard bimmer fans are an extinct species...
It used to be that you added the Sport Package and you got the Ultimate Driving Machine. Now you have to know to get Sport/MSport and then add DHP (Mainly for VSS) and the Sport Auto (if not manual) to get to what truly has the characteristics expected in a sport sedan.

Really I only fault them for doing a terrible job of explaining both DHP and Sport Auto on the website. If you didn't do a lot of research on forums such as this or have a very knowledgeable CA (which is super hard to find, I always know more than the CA) then you could end up not getting what you expect out of your $50k+ sport sedan.

IMO if you pick Sport or M Sport those two options should be included, at the very least VSS & the Sport Program for the Transmission. Make the paddles and adaptive suspension the options even.

Ah well, that's just if I ran the company
I totally agree. I bet most CAs don't even really think about discussing sport auto with their clients off the streets.
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2012, 11:32 PM   #16
JUSKIDN
Lieutenant
JUSKIDN's Avatar
United_States
15
Rep
562
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 EBII 328i M Sport
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

iTrader: (0)

the reg automatic is very aggresive in sport + mode so I could just imagine what the optional one can do
__________________
It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2012, 12:39 AM   #17
dd1981
Kapetan Svog Života
dd1981's Avatar
Serbia
61
Rep
1,710
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 335i sport
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by RWD4Life View Post
Hi All,

I'm in the process of buying a 328i M Sport. Does anyone know if there is significant difference between the regular AT and the Sport AT?
Still don't get why a Golf GTI offers a dual clutch and not a BMW M Sport...
Thanks for your inputs!
Yes there is a huge difference dish out the extra $500 bucks and get it! You wont regret it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinnum1 View Post
yes.

from someone who hjas driven VAG dsg zf8sport is better

shifts just as quick if not quicker and the efficiceny is unreal
Exactly! I started a thread a while back audi s4 dct vs our sport at. I love my sport at its what honestly got me to pick an automatic. After I test drove both the 2012 audi s4 and my 335i with the sport at I was convinced it was smoother and shifted just as fast.
__________________
Custom Modified OEM Muffler,
back
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2012, 12:45 AM   #18
DarkTrigger
Professional
DarkTrigger's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
977
Posts

 
Drives: 335i MPPK
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: LB, SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Only things I would recommend are DHP and Sport Auto. You can feel the difference. I drove with and without both, and I must say it's noticeable.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2012, 02:37 AM   #19
NGuyadeen
First Lieutenant
NGuyadeen's Avatar
United_States
8
Rep
392
Posts

 
Drives: F30 335i Sport
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Miami,Fl

iTrader: (0)

If thats one option you can have get the Sports the different is imo night and day. Also try to conjur up some money for the Xenon lights its sooo worth it
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2012, 03:19 AM   #20
rocko911
New Member
Bahrain
1
Rep
23
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 F30 335i Sports line
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bahrain

iTrader: (0)

Which is faster, keeping the shift lever on the "D" mode or shifting it to the left to the "S" ?
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2012, 03:49 AM   #21
MaestroAl
Major
United Kingdom
13
Rep
1,196
Posts

 
Drives: Superman 330D M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Neither. The computer still does the shifting and they're the same.
__________________
"Sleeper 335D xDrive M Sport" Glacier Silver / Black
ZMS | ZNP | ZVI | 2VF | 2VL | 3AG | 494 | 6NS | 8TH
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST