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      09-03-2017, 01:32 AM   #1
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F31 328d M-Sport Brake install (S2NHA)

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Installation Date : 15 July 2017

Shortly after I bought my F31 I realized the F31 328d M-Sport package didn't come with the Blue Brembo brakes . The 328i M-Sport comes with them but the US diesel model does not. I know they had the BBK in different colors (red, gold, orange) but I like the blue.

It took me a while to find the brakes. I first bought a front set in the hopes of buying a rear later... didn't work out. I eventually found a complete set in FL while on vacation . So I sold the front set.

Used Bentley Publishers book for bolt torque specs and misc info.
Took me a few hours to swap all 4 brakes; did a quick bleed that day. Next day did a complete bleed with the Schwaben 3-Liter European Pressure Brake Bleeder

Still have yet to code the brakes but they feel great. Still on my to-do list though.












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Nice. Be prepared for the amount of dust the new pads produce. I added the blue BBK to my F31 within the past month too and wow, my wheels get dirty fast!
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I have an LCI F31 328d as well. How is the bite on the M-Sport brakes?
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The F31 328d did come with the blue MSport brakes from factory as a part of the option code 2NH. I have it on the 328d.
Also may I recommend the textar brake pads. They make OE brake pads like zimmerman but they also make their own ones that are different than OR but have really little brake dust and also great brake feel.
Wish you the very best with the change up.
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Nice. Be prepared for the amount of dust the new pads produce. I added the blue BBK to my F31 within the past month too and wow, my wheels get dirty fast!
Ha yeah! I definitely can tell the difference. It didn't cake on too much. I wash weekly

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I have an LCI F31 328d as well. How is the bite on the M-Sport brakes?
Aside from the awesome looks they are also functional. Big difference from stock brakes! I say do it!
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The F31 328d did come with the blue MSport brakes from factory as a part of the option code 2NH. I have it on the 328d.
Also may I recommend the textar brake pads. They make OE brake pads like zimmerman but they also make their own ones that are different than OR but have really little brake dust and also great brake feel.
Wish you the very best with the change up.
They been on for a few months now, Love em. I guess it's an addition to the package since mine came with the M-Sport package but didn't have the brakes. I even did a build on BMW and didn't find the option. Maybe dealers have different choices when they order idk
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      09-04-2017, 08:51 PM   #7
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It isn't an option for the 328d to eat the add-on brake package. I would have ordered it as well. Not sure why having a diesel loses your ability to upgrade brakes.
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It isn't an option for the 328d to eat the add-on brake package. I would have ordered it as well. Not sure why having a diesel loses your ability to upgrade brakes.
Agreed
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Pictures re-uploaded, noticed they said cannot display. Sorry
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Pictures re-uploaded, noticed they said cannot display. Sorry
Do they fit on the stock rotors? Also, where did you get a set from and for how much? I only see them being sold individually..
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Looks good, OP. How is the bite compared to the stock brakes?

When I ordered my 17 F31dx (June 2017 build), I chose M Performance Package for the adaptive suspension, 442M 19" bi-colour wheels and M-Sport Brakes. I was expecting the ladder because I read here that M-Performance package (aka track handling package south of the border) comes with the blue brakes.

My car did NOT come with the M-sport brakes and TBH for a $70,000.00+ CAD (optioned out) BMW, the brake bite/feel is sup par with my 2006 Audi A4 2.0T, even my Passat NMS has better bite. The brakes and shitty VSS does not belong on a BMW!
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Do they fit on the stock rotors? Also, where did you get a set from and for how much? I only see them being sold individually..
As far as the Brembo brakes fitting the stock rotors, no they do not fit. They are larger so you will have to get new set of rotors as well. But in return they full up the wheel gaps better and look way better.

As far as finding complete sets, i feel you. It took me while to find them. Ebay US and euro is the best chances. Its the rears that are hard to find, youll find more on ebay.de more than ebay us. My journey to find these consisted of me buying 2 front sets and then finally finding a complete set and buying that. Ended up selling the 2 front sets. Well worth it though
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Looks good, OP. How is the bite compared to the stock brakes?

When I ordered my 17 F31dx (June 2017 build), I chose M Performance Package for the adaptive suspension, 442M 19" bi-colour wheels and M-Sport Brakes. I was expecting the ladder because I read here that M-Performance package (aka track handling package south of the border) comes with the blue brakes.

My car did NOT come with the M-sport brakes and TBH for a $70,000.00+ CAD (optioned out) BMW, the brake bite/feel is sup par with my 2006 Audi A4 2.0T, even my Passat NMS has better bite. The brakes and shitty VSS does not belong on a BMW!
You can defiantly feel the difference, right off the bat. I have the M-Sport pads and lots of bite. Downside lots of dust . How do you like the adaptive suspension? Mine didnt come with that option but i was curios to know if u noticed any differences. Im not sure why but BMW doesnt like to put the brembo brakes on the diesels on M-Sport package. I think its bologna since we can speed too .
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As far as the Brembo brakes fitting the stock rotors, no they do not fit. They are larger so you will have to get new set of rotors as well. But in return they full up the wheel gaps better and look way better.

As far as finding complete sets, i feel you. It took me while to find them. Ebay US and euro is the best chances. Its the rears that are hard to find, youll find more on ebay.de more than ebay us. My journey to find these consisted of me buying 2 front sets and then finally finding a complete set and buying that. Ended up selling the 2 front sets. Well worth it though
Ah okay then. Do you have part numbers I can search up then? What size are the front and back rotors?
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Looks good, OP. How is the bite compared to the stock brakes?
The M-Sport/Performance brakes don't have as firm of a pedal feel as the stock brakes (and yes I coded mine after installation and checked the various coding lines to see that the correct calipers were selected).

With the stock brakes you don't really have much braking power till you hit a wall of firm resistance in the pedal, and then you'll have lots of feedback. If you ever reach the wall of firm resistance with the M-Sport brakes, you'll be stopping HARD. They do an excellent job of stopping you, but I wish there was more pedal feedback.

Initial grab is still easy to control, but the trickiest part letting the car come to a gentle stop since the brakes are still grabbing quite well with very little pedal input (leads to a more jerky final stop).


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As far as finding complete sets, i feel you. It took me while to find them. Ebay US and euro is the best chances. Its the rears that are hard to find, youll find more on ebay.de more than ebay us. My journey to find these consisted of me buying 2 front sets and then finally finding a complete set and buying that. Ended up selling the 2 front sets. Well worth it though
I got my full set on eBay for $1100 shipped. It was pads, calipers, and rotors all pretty much new off of a recycled car (LKQ claimed it had less than 20mi on it). Based upon what I got, the rotors and pads looked to be just about new thickness.


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Ah okay then. Do you have part numbers I can search up then? What size are the front and back rotors?
Use RealOEM and look up the M-Sport brake PNs from a 340/440.
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Looks great! I just upgraded my stocks to M Performance in yellow. Huge difference from stock! There are some great deals out there! I got the full kit brand new for under $1500 shipped from a BMW dealer.
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The M-Sport/Performance brakes don't have as firm of a pedal feel as the stock brakes (and yes I coded mine after installation and checked the various coding lines to see that the correct calipers were selected).

With the stock brakes you don't really have much braking power till you hit a wall of firm resistance in the pedal, and then you'll have lots of feedback. If you ever reach the wall of firm resistance with the M-Sport brakes, you'll be stopping HARD. They do an excellent job of stopping you, but I wish there was more pedal feedback.
This is a very accurate description, and my exact experience with the M Performance brakes vs Stock.
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The M-Sport/Performance brakes don't have as firm of a pedal feel as the stock brakes (and yes I coded mine after installation and checked the various coding lines to see that the correct calipers were selected).

With the stock brakes you don't really have much braking power till you hit a wall of firm resistance in the pedal, and then you'll have lots of feedback. If you ever reach the wall of firm resistance with the M-Sport brakes, you'll be stopping HARD. They do an excellent job of stopping you, but I wish there was more pedal feedback.
This is a very accurate description, and my exact experience with the M Performance brakes vs Stock.
Do yal have the m performance or m sport pads? The way Yal describe sound like m performance pads. I have the m sport. But either way u can notice the difference and looks. Win win in my book
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Do yal have the m performance or m sport pads? The way Yal describe sound like m performance pads. I have the m sport. But either way u can notice the difference and looks. Win win in my book
Not sure exactly. I have whatever came on the M-Sport brake kit from a 2016 340i. I think at that time the M-Sport brakes came with M-Perf pads.
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Not sure exactly. I have whatever came on the M-Sport brake kit from a 2016 340i. I think at that time the M-Sport brakes came with M-Perf pads.
Couldn't tell ya buy it is possible.
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