M Sport Brake Vs

Dan_335i · 11-15-2012, 12:19 AM

Whats is worth it paying $350 to upgrade current brakes of a f30 335i to the m sport brakes. The one where you need to get msport package.

Or

Should I get BMW M Performance 18'' brakes

Quote:

Inner-vented, lightweight sport brake discs. Designed for extremely sporty driving and higher thermal challenges. Four-piston aluminium caliper on the front axle, two-piston aluminium caliper on the rear axle. Available in M Performance Red, M Performance Yellow or M Performance Orange. Includes coloured M logo.

1. If I decide to go with the 18" brakes how much would it cost for parts and labour roughly?

2. Would the 18" brakes be way more of a grip then the m brakes that are a upgrade in msport package? How much % better?

Vitoco · 11-15-2012, 04:39 AM

The M Sport brakes and the M Performance brakes are IDENTICAL in size and all, except for that the Performance discs are slotted. Tha´s the only difference, so if u can get the M Sport brakes it´s only stupid not to take them. Unless you want red, orange or yellow calipers instead of the blue

bmrm396 · 11-15-2012, 11:29 AM

Actually the rear rotors on the mperformance kit are bigger than reg msport ...

clarence · 11-15-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

Actually the rear rotors on the mperformance kit are bigger than reg msport ...

No, M-sport brakes & M-performance brakes are identical on all four corners apart from the slotted discs on the M-perf kit.

godfather87 · 11-15-2012, 12:43 PM

Man, its def worth it! I wasn't gonna get it but the dealer ended up giving it to me since there were so many delays with the car etc. The brakes look sweet and everyone always tells me how nice they stand out!
$350 isn't much on a $60k plus car...i would get it again for sure!

godfather87 · 11-15-2012, 12:47 PM

here's a pic i took...

bmrm396 · 11-15-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by clarence

No, M-sport brakes & M-performance brakes are identical on all four corners apart from the slotted discs on the M-perf kit.

Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.

328i M sport brakes - front: 13.4" / rear: 13.6" = 340mm/345mm
335i M sport brakes - front: 14.6" front / rear: 13.6" rear = 370mm/345mm

M performance kit (all f30) -
•Front rotor size: 370mm x 30mm
•Rear rotor size*: 345mm x 24mm

And it goes without saying OP, that u must have 18" wheels or above to fit

Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all

DerekS · 11-15-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all

Believe me, it is the only option advantage for Canadian purchasers of F30-335i M Sport compared to US pricing and options.

E34 · 11-15-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.

328i M sport brakes - front: 13.4" / rear: 13.6" = 340mm/345mm
335i M sport brakes - front: 14.6" front / rear: 13.6" rear = 370mm/345mm

M performance kit (all f30) -
•Front rotor size: 370mm x 30mm
•Rear rotor size*: 345mm x 24mm

And it goes without saying OP, that u must have 18" wheels or above to fit

Im friggin jealous u even get this option. Us in the US for some asinine reason, dont get msport brakes at all

smaller 328i M Sport brake rotors are mythical. there is no such thing. You can not order M Sport brakes in USA and the 328i M Sport does not exist for Canadian buyers. In the ROW all model M Sport brakes are the same size.

clarence · 11-15-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

Of course were neglecting whether this is a 328 or 335. If youre talkin 335 then yes, if 328 then no.

If u're talking abt the mythical US-spec M-sport brakes then yes, but if u're talking ROW/EU-spec then no. M-sport brake is the same regardless of whether it's a 316d or a 335i.

Vitoco · 11-16-2012, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by clarence

If u're talking abt the mythical US-spec M-sport brakes then yes, but if u're talking ROW/EU-spec then no. M-sport brake is the same regardless of whether it's a 316d or a 335i.

this.

MaestroAl · 11-16-2012, 04:22 AM

Do you think that the BMW marketeers who decide what "lines", what options, what packages and what general shizzle is available in what country ... all take a truck load of acid before their meetings?

Vitoco · 11-16-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaestroAl

Do you think that the BMW marketeers who decide what "lines", what options, what packages and what general shizzle is available in what country ... all take a truck load of acid before their meetings?

BavarianFanatic · 11-16-2012, 06:19 PM

Bigger brakes does not equal better performance. It's all about the pads. You can easily outperform M Sport/M Performance brakes with the stock setup and a good set of pads. For 99% of folks the big brakes are eye candy. The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade.

Carjack · 11-16-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BavarianFanatic

Bigger brakes does not equal better performance. It's all about the pads. You can easily outperform M Sport/M Performance brakes with the stock setup and a good set of pads. For 99% of folks the big brakes are eye candy. The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade.

Quote: "The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade" ?
If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!

BavarianFanatic · 11-16-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Carjack

Quote: "The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade" ?
If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!

If you're experiencing fade on the street, you're doing it wrong. ;-)

MaestroAl · 11-17-2012, 05:51 AM

Damn right. I'd add to that; if you're getting brake fade on the street then you need locking up

Carjack · 11-17-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carjack

Quote: "The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade" ?
If you use your brakes, it is the biggest benefit!
Brake fade is the killer of all standard brakes!

On the track man! That's what the M-Sport braking system 2NH is for.
Not for ponceing down the boulavard!

Steve89GTA · 10-22-2013, 09:57 AM

What are you guys using for winter wheels with the msport setup?
I hear there are only a few 18" that fit.
Steve

oceanview · 10-22-2013, 11:29 AM

I'm going to use the 400 M
Front 8Jx18 225/45
Rear 8 1/2Jx18 255/40
with Pirelli Sottozero II RFT

shivaswrath · 10-27-2013, 10:51 PM

The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup...

F32 · 10-27-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup...

Do you have any documentation showing weights?

11-15-2012, 04:39 AM	#2
Vitoco Captain Drives: F31 328i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 714 iTrader: (0)	The M Sport brakes and the M Performance brakes are IDENTICAL in size and all, except for that the Performance discs are slotted. Tha´s the only difference, so if u can get the M Sport brakes it´s only stupid not to take them. Unless you want red, orange or yellow calipers instead of the blue __________________ Glacier Ag. F31 328iA M Sport oct. 2012 \| Sport Automatic \| Adap. M Susp. \| Pano. Moonroof \| 20" ATS Racelight Grey w. Michelin PSS\| M Sport brakes \| Harman Kardon \| Elec. Seats \| PDC F&R \| Park Assist \| ACC Stop&Go \| Perf. Parts \|
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11-15-2012, 11:29 AM	#3
bmrm396 Major Drives: '14 F30 335i MSport Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sD, CA Posts: 1,329 iTrader: (2)	Actually the rear rotors on the mperformance kit are bigger than reg msport ... __________________ Formerly addicted to e46fanatics
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11-15-2012, 12:47 PM	#6
godfather87 Private Drives: 2013 335ix Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada, Kitchener Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	here's a pic i took... Attached Images
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11-16-2012, 04:22 AM	#12
MaestroAl Major Drives: Superman 330D M Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,194 iTrader: (0)	Do you think that the BMW marketeers who decide what "lines", what options, what packages and what general shizzle is available in what country ... all take a truck load of acid before their meetings? __________________ "Superman 330D M Sport" Estoril Blue / Coral Red 2PF\|ZAP\|ZMP\|ZVI\|2VF\|3AP\|420\|488\|494\|5DC\|688\|6NR IT ARRIVED!
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11-17-2012, 05:51 AM	#17
MaestroAl Major Drives: Superman 330D M Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,194 iTrader: (0)	Damn right. I'd add to that; if you're getting brake fade on the street then you need locking up __________________ "Superman 330D M Sport" Estoril Blue / Coral Red 2PF\|ZAP\|ZMP\|ZVI\|2VF\|3AP\|420\|488\|494\|5DC\|688\|6NR IT ARRIVED!
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11-15-2012, 12:43 PM	#5
godfather87 Private Drives: 2013 335ix Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada, Kitchener Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	Man, its def worth it! I wasn't gonna get it but the dealer ended up giving it to me since there were so many delays with the car etc. The brakes look sweet and everyone always tells me how nice they stand out! $350 isn't much on a $60k plus car...i would get it again for sure!
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11-16-2012, 06:19 PM	#14
BavarianFanatic Too much is never enough Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 1,694 iTrader: (0)	Bigger brakes does not equal better performance. It's all about the pads. You can easily outperform M Sport/M Performance brakes with the stock setup and a good set of pads. For 99% of folks the big brakes are eye candy. The only benefit of a big kit is more capacity for heat dissipation to prevent fade.
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10-22-2013, 09:57 AM	#19
Steve89GTA Registered Drives: 2013 335 MSport Xdrive Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	Winter Wheels? Blue MSport Brakes What are you guys using for winter wheels with the msport setup? I hear there are only a few 18" that fit. Steve
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oceanview Private First Class Drives: 335i F31 RWD Autom. Join Date: May 2013 Location: Switzerland Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	I'm going to use the 400 M Front 8Jx18 225/45 Rear 8 1/2Jx18 255/40 with Pirelli Sottozero II RFT
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10-27-2013, 10:51 PM	#21
shivaswrath Colonel Drives: 2012 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lost in NJ Posts: 2,980 iTrader: (3)	The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup... __________________ 2012 335i Mineral Gray M Performance Whore: PPK\|Exhaust\|Brakes\|Performance Suspension Struts & Springs\|LSD\|Black Kidney Grilles\|CF Spoiler and Mirror Caps\|Bav Stage 1\|400Ms\|BMWF30.com
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