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11-16-2012, 09:55 AM | #1 |
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Palestinian Israeli Conflict
I understand that this has been going on for a while. However, it seems to me that all of the Jewish friends that I know are about to fly over to "support Israel". How is this conflict any different that any of the previous ones?
Also, seems as if the Palestinian death toll is about 8x the amount as the Israeli death toll from throughout the years. Palestine shot over missiles killing three and then Israel sent airstrikes into the Gaza Strip killing at least 19 Palestinians, including seven militants and 12 civilians, among them six children and a pregnant woman. Now Israel is calling for 30,000 troops to be recruited from the reserve to prepare for a ground battle. Is this really necessary? The Prime Minister of Israel is up for re-election in January, could this be a way of showing force in his last days before the election. What should the United States position be on this conflict? Is there a line that should be drawn for whether we should step in or not? If we do, I feel that the whole region can sprial out of control considering Iran being a threat and the Syrian civil war taking place along with Egypt having a new leadership. Overall, I feel that the Prime Minister of Israel is being selfish in that Israel needs to steer away from a "get even" response and understand that whatever they do next will affect countries all over the world. Thoughts? *** I understand this conflict is extremely complicated, just trying to grasp what's going on and here other people's opinions.*** Last edited by pgviper; 11-16-2012 at 11:15 AM. |
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11-16-2012, 02:21 PM | #2 |
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This mess has been going on since before the time of Christ and nothing will change it. Not us or anybody. Read your Bible it gives the low down on all of it.
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I am catholic and I do understand this. But things seem to be getting more intense than they usually are and with all of the volatile situations over there, it seems like it could become a huge mess very fast.
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11-16-2012, 03:47 PM | #4 |
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Violence will continue until Israel allows the state of Palestine to exist. If you look at the map over the last few decades you will see the land of Palestine decreasing and Israel growing over time. Gaza is the biggest concentration camp in the world.
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This conflict will never be resolved as long as th US blindly backs israel
Israel can pretty much do as it pleases, without worldwide condemnation And if you so much as open your mouth about their actions You are labeled as anti-Semitic and all hell breaks loose Keep in mind that gaza is an occupied territory It's a small area packed with millions of palestinians, it's actually one of the most densely populated areas on the planet Ever hear of any pressure on Israel to give back the land they occupied? No All you hear about is "Israel, our biggest ally" Please someone explain to me why it's your biggest ally What was the last good thing Israel has done for the US Another thing to think of I'm sure you've heard of the whole fiscal cliff issues facing the US Do you know what is the one thing that is EXEMPT from all spending cuts? US aid to Israel I'm shocked how that doesn't trouble US citizens? So the federal government faces cuts to all departments, including the military But no one can touch a dime going to israel
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The real issue facing us now is the fiscal cliff. Please resolve that and then worry about stuff beyond our control.
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It isn't his ignorance that is astounding, it's yours. We blindly support Israeli actions that are taken right from the Nazi playbook. Perspective is everything.
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I deleted that post for a reason, so I won't go there. But if you think that our support of Israel is truly blind, you are definitely ignorant. There is a very real reason we support that country, and the administration is fully aware of that reason. Not that I necessarily agree with that reason at all... Saying our support is blind is not an accurate statement.
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Agreed. It's more like we look out the window, see what's going on, and just close the shutters.
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This weeks conflict was started when Israel killed a member of Hamas, Israel says hamas is a terrorist group but they were democratically elected...
No dead Hamas member then no bombings today. Simple, Israel started this crap for their own good, political or preparing for Iran, who knows. muslims, christians and jews lived in this area for ages without much issue. Problems began when jews tried to create their own 'country' and in doing so they pushed out the muslims... In reaction to this happening for so long without resolve, muslims around the world hate jews and americans. Hate for americans for funding the jewish state. Hence this all helped create arab terrorist that came to america on 9/11. Once this israel/palestine issue is solved then the worlds religious wars/problems would be solved. |
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Never thought I'd find so many things I disagree on in only 1 post 1) yes the Jews were always there, just like they've been in most countries in Europe That doesn't mean they get to take over the entire country and kick its inhabitants out. And the Arabs also loved there, so why do you find it rightfully jewish, but not rightfully Arab? 2) How would you feel if we offered the USA as a safe haven to all the American Indians? I mean they we're here first no? 3) utter rubbish The entire population of the Arab world consisted of nomadic tribes So you think nomadic tribes are not good enough to warrant a country? The fact is, find any map of the area prior to the creation os Israel That area is called Palestine Whether you like it or not, that's what the entire world referred to it as 4) how shocking The Arab governments did not welcome the new state that was created in place if an existing state? How rude of them! Here is a picture to show what's happened in the past 64 years Try to be objective and tell me which party has done more damage And this also shows why the Israelis have no desire to achieve peace at all In about 10 more years there won't be any more areas controlled by the palestinians and they won't have to worry about the 2 state solution, because one of them will be killed ![]()
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The borders of the US are agreed upon by the entire world The borders of Israel are considered illegal by the UN And they are occupied territories The actual legal area of Israel is much smaller than what you see on the map now But when Iraq invaded Kuwait All hell broke loose Well Israel invaded areas that used to belong to other countries But that's ok cuz we feel bad for the Jews, so we'll just turn our heads
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Until the Israelis give the Palestinians the right to their own country
They will never live in peace You can't expect peace when you are occupying the land of someone else How peaceful would you be if someone walked into your house and called it his. Because he used to live there earlier?
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I hate to sound cynical here, but for many there can be no peace until the last Jew is out Israel/Palestine. There are those that hate and despise them for no other reason than the fact that they are Jewish.
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I'll say it again because its pretty damn simple to understand. Prior to the jewish governement killing this Hamas official, there was PEACE since 2008. It is now because of the jewish government that theres hundreds of rockets flying out of Gaza. I blame no one for TODAYS situation except for the jewish military taking out this 1 person. |
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Just from you saying Israeli Arabs its obvious you are a jew yourself. Any arab living in what you call Israel is first Arab then Israeli second (Arab-Israeli), not the other way around, just as I am an Afghan-American. Pretty funny how jews use that term. I guess its their way of saying the land was always theirs. Glad I'm not arab, because they all seem like a bunch of whimps not backing up or supporting their own blood, big shame to arabs.... |
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Why is it interesting to call him an official? Wasn't he part of the Hamas government? I can prove you wrong but I'll give you a chance to backup your statement. |
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