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      01-05-2016, 10:13 AM   #1
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B48 - 330i MPPK

Happy New Year everyone ...

Have been looking for tuning options for the brand new B48 (the higher spec found on 30i for 2016 models), and still nothing on the horizon '' yet ''

Wonder if there will be an OEM MPPK available from BMW (similar to the previous 335i), and if Yes how much power will be gained over the current 252hp 350nm.

The engine is really brilliant (compared to the N20 28i which was also a great power-plant) it's smoother and feels very very powerful, guess it's also underrated
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Yes, and pretty efficient too. And sound is OK I think. Probably artificial, but works :-)
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I don't have inside info but I doubt they will release one for 330i since they did not release one for the 328i.

They are releasing one for the 340i this year.
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They are releasing one for the 340i this year.
The wait is killing me
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      01-05-2016, 01:26 PM   #5
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I think that 2.0L pot could go up to 300hp+ easily if BMW wants to

Just look at the MB A45 AMG 2.0L with 380hp,

And of course the B58 can easily be tuned for much higher power (M4 GTS is 3.0L)
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I think that 2.0L pot could go up to 300hp+ easily if BMW wants to

Just look at the MB A45 AMG 2.0L with 380hp,

And of course the B58 can easily be tuned for much higher power (M4 GTS is 3.0L)
You clearly don't understand how different the engines are in all of these examples.
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      01-05-2016, 10:12 PM   #7
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MPPK on 330i will put it dangerously close to 340i and eat into the sales of the latter. They won't do it because it doesn't make business sense.

You can look for Dinan to make an alternative to MPPK which will be backed by proper warranty.
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I think that 2.0L pot could go up to 300hp+ easily if BMW wants to

Just look at the MB A45 AMG 2.0L with 380hp,

And of course the B58 can easily be tuned for much higher power (M4 GTS is 3.0L)
MB A45 AMG has a forged engine, and it's a handmade AMG engine. Not mass produced as well. So of course they can run higher boost, which is why they're much more expensive.

BMW 2.0L engines on the other hand....not so much.
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      01-06-2016, 02:06 AM   #9
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I know all about the AMG specifics, and was talking mainly about boosting the 2.0L up to 300hp (not to match the A45 380), and that's what tuning is all about.
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When will an MPPK for the 2l turbo come out? My guess is when you can buy a Cayman with a GT3 engine, PDK and LSD as standard equipment. What I'm trying to say, is that even without a lighter engine that fits behind the front axle, the 328i/330i is close enough to 335i/340i performance that there is no way BMW will let it tread on the toes of its more expensive stable mate.

While I would put down a deposit on an F30 328is with +-300hp, m diff, exhaust, brakes and suspension (and happily pay 340i money), BMW have done their market research and know that there aren't enough people willing to do so. Man, wouldn't that be a car and a half though. An instant cult classic.
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Happy New Year everyone ...

Have been looking for tuning options for the brand new B48 (the higher spec found on 30i for 2016 models), and still nothing on the horizon '' yet ''

Wonder if there will be an OEM MPPK available from BMW (similar to the previous 335i), and if Yes how much power will be gained over the current 252hp 350nm.

The engine is really brilliant (compared to the N20 28i which was also a great power-plant) it's smoother and feels very very powerful, guess it's also underrated
Congratulations on your new drive... hope you enjoy it.

I also used to have 328i luxury and it was brilliant car, now thinking of getting the 330i what different do you feel between both regarding new suspension, steering and lower profile 18" tires are they hard and uncomfortable?

Also I heard that the new engine has lag at take off and lower rpm, do you feel it? the 328i was very responsive and has zero lag.

Last LED or xenon what do you think about them?
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      02-04-2016, 02:12 AM   #12
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Hello and Yes I'm enjoying it .. Thanks

The 330i-LCI suspension is stiffer and that's a plus as I didn't like the softness in pre-LCI models (specially here on our ring road wavy levels), the new suspension is much better

Steering & Servotronic has also been improved, more precise and responsive.

When the engine is at operating temperature (Oil I mean), there's an amazing sound on Sport mood and No lag at all, Torque is available at lower Revs and that's great for cruising and driving sanely '' sometimes ''

LED is much brighter and spreads over nicely on highways at night, Xenons were also great to be honest.

The only downside is the 18'' with lower profiles and our streets surprising potholes
I had to replace one of my front tyres at 2000 km due to hitting one of those holes... Yet it looks really nice
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      02-05-2016, 10:20 AM   #13
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Thanks for your feedback.

Yes the pre-LCI model was very soft and bouncy specially on high speeds on wavy roads.... scary!!

When you say stiffer is it hard and stiff or stable and comfortable comparing to the old model? specially on our perfect roads.

It was written on an Australian motoring magazine review that it has lag in comfortable mode down low end, I think that was the result of raising the starting torque curve from 1250 rpm on N20 engine to 1450 rpm on the B48.
http://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-3-ser...-review-54405/

They say "BMW claims the 330i sprints from 0-100km/h in 5.8sec and although throttle response felt a little laggy from standstill on a couple of occasions, it generally moves with purpose".

Sorry for your tire, there is always a price for good things. You can replace them in future with non run flat tires and saver spare in trunk.

Returning back to your original subject we can raise the power with JB4 from "Burger Motorsports" you can email Terry and ask him for piggyback tune for your 330i. He is the best on the market for turbo BMW engines. I got one for my old 328i and it did 0-100 in 5.4 sec.

You have much knowledge about your BMW you are Bimmerhead
Where do you work?
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      02-06-2016, 02:55 AM   #14
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Thanks for the note,
10 Years of BMWs (E90, F30 & F30-LCI) is good time to learn some

I'm in the Food business field, import, supply and trading ..

Stiffer means more stable and still comfortable;it is close to Sport Suspension for the E90 '' which is great at corners ''

Regarding the lag, Still unnoticed unless you surprised the engine while cruising Yet on Sport or Sport+ the pedal is very responsive and the engine is really smooth and powerful.

& Thanks for the JB4 details
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      02-08-2016, 04:24 AM   #15
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Thanks for the note,
10 Years of BMWs (E90, F30 & F30-LCI) is good time to learn some

I'm in the Food business field, import, supply and trading ..

Stiffer means more stable and still comfortable;it is close to Sport Suspension for the E90 '' which is great at corners ''

Regarding the lag, Still unnoticed unless you surprised the engine while cruising Yet on Sport or Sport+ the pedal is very responsive and the engine is really smooth and powerful.

& Thanks for the JB4 details
One more thing, Burger Tuning replied to my email and they still do not have the BMW B48 tested; They done it only on the MINI
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      02-08-2016, 09:05 PM   #16
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That is right because they are still having N20 328i engine for 2016 LCI model, you can wait till next june for the B48 330i engine to arrive the US and Terry will provide the tune shortly. Finally we have something in Egypt released ahead of them hahaha

One more thing regarding your 330i engine does it still have the diesel ticking sound on idle like the 328i or they have solve the issue?

What type of fuel use use 92 or 95?

Also you can use the P3cars multi function gauge to monitor engine water temperature, turbo temperature, turbo pressure and intake air temperature and other important readings very useful in hot summer weather to know what is going on inside your engine.
http://www.p3cars.com/shop/bmw/bmw-3...p3-vent-gauge/
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      02-09-2016, 02:28 AM   #17
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Yeah, we have got the B48 for 330i first

I'm not rushing the Tune anyway, the engine is very powerful; Sometimes I feel it's underrated not to be close to the 335i & now 340i (BMW says it's 252hp, it feels much stronger)

The B48 sounds much better than the N20 across the range, The diesel metal ticking is fading not as strong as the 328i

I'm mixing fuel, 95 is the majority though (but the engine runs well on 92)

Thanks for the Link for the P3
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      02-11-2016, 07:22 AM   #18
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One more thing regarding your 330i engine does it still have the diesel ticking sound on idle like the 328i or they have solve the issue?
Do you know what the ticking noise is?
No issue. It's the Bosch fuel injectors working.
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Do you know what the ticking noise is?
No issue. It's the Bosch fuel injectors working.
Yes I know, its the sound of high pressure fuel being injected inside combustion chamber at 200 bar when the piston is at the top dead center compression stroke. Same as direct injected diesel engines.

The B48 engine has lower sound due to sound insulation deadening material used around the engine body, and also using quitter piezo injectors rather than traditional solenoid one.
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Yes I know, its the sound of high pressure fuel being injected inside combustion chamber at 200 bar when the piston is at the top dead center compression stroke.
So why is it an issue? You're inside the car when driving it. I certainly cannot hear the injector noise from my car. If it caused the car to break down or not perform properly, then it would be an issue. Thankfully this is not the case.
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Boxtuning for B48. https://www.cpa-chiptuning.de/en/chi...uning_2990.htm
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Thanks for the link
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