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      12-30-2016, 11:07 PM   #1
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N26 Meth Dyno

Hi guys, I got my car dynoed today. Here are the results.

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Run 1: Map 0 w/ Meth
Run 2 & 3: Map 3 w/ Meth

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      12-31-2016, 12:46 AM   #2
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Nice results. I would have expected higher numbers with the meth injection. I wonder if that has anything to do with the differences between the N20 and N26.

I have the N26 as well so I like seeing these kinds of threads.
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That's awesome to see! Still thinking whether or not I should do the meth kit for my n26. Ordered my ER FMIC & CP, once installed I'll be FBO. Plan on doing a dyno, might get meth after and see the difference!
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That's awesome to see! Still thinking whether or not I should do the meth kit for my n26. Ordered my ER FMIC & CP, once installed I'll be FBO. Plan on doing a dyno, might get meth after and see the difference!
What do you guys prefer, fuel flex e85 blend or meth kit?
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That's awesome to see! Still thinking whether or not I should do the meth kit for my n26. Ordered my ER FMIC & CP, once installed I'll be FBO. Plan on doing a dyno, might get meth after and see the difference!
What do you guys prefer, fuel flex e85 blend or meth kit?
Haven't tried either
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That's awesome to see! Still thinking whether or not I should do the meth kit for my n26. Ordered my ER FMIC & CP, once installed I'll be FBO. Plan on doing a dyno, might get meth after and see the difference!
I'm running a Stage 2 Turbo upgrade, and speaking to my tuner I was told that the HPFP has plenty of head room (it's pretty much the same as the n55 HPFP supporting 2 less cylinders) and that the injectors are actually the limiting factor, but that 350HP is no problem.

I've installed a Fuel-it Stage 2 LPFP so I can add more fueling (possibly e85) later.
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I'm running a Stage 2 Turbo upgrade, and speaking to my tuner I was told that the HPFP has plenty of head room (it's pretty much the same as the n55 HPFP supporting 2 less cylinders) and that the injectors are actually the limiting factor, but that 350HP is no problem.

I've installed a Fuel-it Stage 2 LPFP so I can add more fueling (possibly e85) later.
Tell me about your car mods, I am interested to know of your experience with it
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I'm running a Stage 2 Turbo upgrade, and speaking to my tuner I was told that the HPFP has plenty of head room (it's pretty much the same as the n55 HPFP supporting 2 less cylinders) and that the injectors are actually the limiting factor, but that 350HP is no problem.

I've installed a Fuel-it Stage 2 LPFP so I can add more fueling (possibly e85) later.
Tell me about your car mods, I am interested to know of your experience with it
I don't want to jack this thread! you can check my thread for my mods and experience so far.
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      01-02-2017, 08:28 PM   #9
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JB4 logs of the runs? Let's see how hard you're pushing the tuning.

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JB4 logs of the runs? Let's see how hard you're pushing the tuning.

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Run 1 Log http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=...80895275067351
Run 2 Log http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=...50627306839323

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I'm running a Stage 2 Turbo upgrade, and speaking to my tuner I was told that the HPFP has plenty of head room (it's pretty much the same as the n55 HPFP supporting 2 less cylinders) and that the injectors are actually the limiting factor, but that 350HP is no problem.

I've installed a Fuel-it Stage 2 LPFP so I can add more fueling (possibly e85) later.
How much are you pushing? Is it safe for us to run a Stage 2 Turbo?
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I'm not pushing anymore than stage two flash. 22PSI.

I'm just holding it longer. The Turbo has more flow capacity higher up, so can hold boost when the stock one falls off.

Pretty much the same as Dinan are doing with their Stage 4 (FBO and compressor upgrade).

My Stage 2 has a turbine upgrade also so in theory it should be good for more. 380HP is the current record (in Brazil on E100 flexfuel) with Pure Stage 2.

I won't go any higher than this for now.
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Originally Posted by mru_turbo View Post
Hi guys, I got my car dynoed today. Here are the results.

Mods:
JB4 Stage 2
BMS Meth kit
ER Catted Downpipe

Gear 5
Run 1: Map 0 w/ Meth
Run 2 & 3: Map 3 w/ Meth

Where did you go to get the dyno runs performed? My last trip was at EAS in Irvine area.......
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Hi guys, I got my car dynoed today. Here are the results.

Mods:
JB4 Stage 2
BMS Meth kit
ER Catted Downpipe

Gear 5
Run 1: Map 0 w/ Meth
Run 2 & 3: Map 3 w/ Meth

looking at your logs, it Looks like you're only pushing ~22psi peak. think you have a bit more headroom on the stock turbo?
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Hi guys, I got my car dynoed today. Here are the results.

Mods:
JB4 Stage 2
BMS Meth kit
ER Catted Downpipe

Gear 5
Run 1: Map 0 w/ Meth
Run 2 & 3: Map 3 w/ Meth

looking at your logs, it Looks like you're only pushing ~22psi peak. think you have a bit more headroom on the stock turbo?
not about the turbo, it's about the internals on 28i n20/26. Isn't very safe passed 22 psi.
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Yup what smallba said. Trinity/GSR (don't think they're around anymore) got the stock turbo to 29PSI and grenaded their engine.

Also a couple others blew it around 26PSI. And some even at 23PSI though most of those have been piggyback tunes and I suspect timing related. Knock will eventually kill even the most robust engine.

A lot of knowledge has came out of these. Like don't push it past 330lbft on stock internals. That's about 22PSI at 3000rpm.
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GSR and GSR Technik are 2 different entities. Just to clarify . GSR is gone..yes...GSR Technik is around. Matt/Bobby for tuning needs.
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Where did you go to get the dyno runs performed? My last trip was at EAS in Irvine area.......
I also went to EAS. The guy was showing me some of the other N20/N26 dyno runs for comparisons. Your dyno was probably one of them haha.
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LOL...When I went, their dyno wiring was messed up. It records end results but the actual graph SUCKS. I had 10 pulls and really not one recorded correctly. It kept dropping signals, so the sheet I have is basically useless to show the curve,etc. Wasn't happy after spending all day there. Based on your results, you have 20hp/30tq on me (which is misleading as I was testing in 100 degree weather)...which given your mods, isn't really as much as I would have expected. I'm sure the length of time on boost etc is probably longer and the water temps etc are much better than on my car....

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I got unexpected results on the dyno today. I had the BMS Methanol Injection kit recently installed on my 2016 428xi and the numbers showed more power output to the wheels on Map 2 than on Map 3.

With the BMS Meth kit is there a way of knowing when the meth is spraying?

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I got unexpected results on the dyno today. I had the BMS Methanol Injection kit recently installed on my 2016 428xi and the numbers showed more power output to the wheels on Map 2 than on Map 3.

With the BMS Meth kit is there a way of knowing when the meth is spraying?

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What kind of dyno was this?
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What kind of dyno was this?
Dyna Pack 2000

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