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      07-19-2015, 01:45 PM   #1
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Passenger wing mirror drop when reversing?

Reading the manual for my 335dx, it says that if the wing mirror switch is set to the driver's side then when reverse gear is engaged the passenger mirror drops down slightly in order to view kerbs etc more easily.

This does not seem to happen on mine at all, do I need to have selected folding mirrors or some other option when speccing the car? I would have thought they would all be capable of this as it just requires the mirror glass to tilt down slightly which can be done entirely via the standard mirror motors with or without the external housing being able to be folded electrically or not.

Perhaps I am missing something obvious.
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      07-19-2015, 01:47 PM   #2
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Yep, you need folding mirrors. Sorry!
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      07-19-2015, 01:47 PM   #3
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The dipping mirror will only work if the car has either folding mirrors or electric seats as an option.
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      07-19-2015, 02:02 PM   #4
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That's annoying, especially as the function does not actually require any of the features present in folding mirrors or electric seats, it just needs to drop the mirror down temporarily like you do when you move it with the standard adjustment motor.
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That's annoying, especially as the function does not actually require any of the features present in folding mirrors or electric seats, it just needs to drop the mirror down temporarily like you do when you move it with the standard adjustment motor.
True, but it has to remember where to return to...
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That's annoying, especially as the function does not actually require any of the features present in folding mirrors or electric seats, it just needs to drop the mirror down temporarily like you do when you move it with the standard adjustment motor.
True, but it has to remember where to return to...
Yes, I have folding mirrors and I think that they remember their position for each key profile.
So, quite likely a memory module is part of these option packs.
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Yes, I have folding mirrors and I think that they remember their position for each key profile.
So, quite likely a memory module is part of these option packs.
The dipping feature is very handy when parking (to protect from kerbing your nearside alloys), and don't understand why both mirrors don't dip, and/or you have a switch that enables/disables the automatic dip function (i.e. If you were reversing but not parking).
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Yes, I have folding mirrors and I think that they remember their position for each key profile.
So, quite likely a memory module is part of these option packs.
The dipping feature is very handy when parking (to protect from kerbing your nearside alloys), and don't understand why both mirrors don't dip, and/or you have a switch that enables/disables the automatic dip function (i.e. If you were reversing but not parking).
I completely agree. If both were to dip it would make a number of parking situations easier and minimise the risks. If you reverse park on the wrong side of the street, or on the right of a one way street, it would be helpful.
Especially as the car doesn't like you reversing with the drivers door open...
Also, it would aid getting lined up for reversing OCD centrally into a parking bay...
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its weird wifes i3 has full electric , folding and dimming mirrors as standard.

So tempted to do a swap out with mine as the mirros are identical
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I can't believe how many times this same question is posted!
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Every time I drive the missus golf I miss the dropping mirror! Really helps with alloy protection....
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I completely agree. If both were to dip it would make a number of parking situations easier and minimise the risks. If you reverse park on the wrong side of the street, or on the right of a one way street, it would be helpful.
Especially as the car doesn't like you reversing with the drivers door open...
Also, it would aid getting lined up for reversing OCD centrally into a parking bay...
Although if you are reversing out of a garage it is better that the mirrors are pointing directly backwards so you can see the side of the car.

Still agree that it's a con that it's not included irrespective of folding mirrors/elec memory seats
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Although if you are reversing out of a garage it is better that the mirrors are pointing directly backwards so you can see the side of the car.

Still agree that it's a con that it's not included irrespective of folding mirrors/elec memory seats
It's the same across a number of manufacturers, - fixed mirrors don't auto dip.

What is a con is that folding mirrors are not standard on a BMW.

A large number of cars these are included in the stock spec.


Just another example of BMW parting us fools from our money..
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Does anyone not feel that the mirror dips just a little too much? I think it goes to too steep an angle and if you're trying to line something up further behind the car then I have to flick it it to passenger side.
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Does anyone not feel that the mirror dips just a little too much? I think it goes to too steep an angle and if you're trying to line something up further behind the car then I have to flick it it to passenger side.
I wonder if there's some parameter that can be coded to change that?
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Does anyone not feel that the mirror dips just a little too much? I think it goes to too steep an angle and if you're trying to line something up further behind the car then I have to flick it it to passenger side.
Yeah getting a sweet spot is difficult.

Admittedly the xdrive helps as you are so much higher to start with


However, the angle of dip is a pain in some situations and have to manuall dip or raise it.
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Surround View!
+1 The one option I use every time I move the car.
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Surround View!
One of the few things I didn't spec. How well does it work in winter when the car is filthy or in the dark?
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Surround View!
That's the answer!

Even more money for BMW's profit line.

Seriously, surround view is a good option, another 'pair of eyes'.

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One of the few things I didn't spec. How well does it work in winter when the car is filthy or in the dark?
Copes pretty well, obviously the reversing lens will get filthy over miles, but I get in the habit of just keeping it clean. Not noticed bird's eye view has any issues with a bit of winter grime about.

A bit more limited in the dark, but still assists depending on what light sources are around you.

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