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      08-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #1
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New Product - ER N20 Charge Pipe Just Realeased

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Just wanted to let you guys know the new ER N20 Charge Pipe has finally been released

Introducing our new Charge Pipe for the 2012+ BMW 320i, 328i N20 Single Turbo Engine, 2013+ BMW 428i N20 Single Turbo Engine and 2014+ BMW 228i N20 Single Turbo Engine!



Key Features:

Increase throttle response and decreases turbo lag.
Lightweight High Grade 6061 Aluminum Piping.
Replaces the factory soft plastic charge pipe that is prone to breaking under high boost.
Throttle body matched 2.75" piping.
Retains factory style o-ring throttle body lock flange. Precision CNC machined throttle body flange ensures leak free connection to throttle body. Quick and easy connection and disconnection to throttle body. Ideal connection compared to the silicone hose and hose clamp connection found in all other aftermarket charge pipe upgrade pipes available in the marketplace.
Precision CNC machined MAP sensor flange ensures leak free connection.
Charge Pipe features beaded ends and T-bolt clamps to prevent intercooler piping from coming off from boost.
Silicone Hose included.
Includes two 1/8" NPT Bungs (comes pre-capped) - For methanol injection or as a boost source.
Compatible with the factory electronic diverter valve.
Includes all hardware for complete installation.
Limited Lifetime Warranty.

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      08-04-2014, 05:12 PM   #2
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No blowoff valve spot? That's pretty though. Will this throw any codes for those of use not running a tune with a code delete function? PM me the price.
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      08-04-2014, 06:59 PM   #3
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Just like the f30 n55 there is no bov option.

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Just like the f30 n55 there is no bov option.

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the picture shows 1 pipe only the throttle body one. Is the compressor outlet pipe included as well

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the picture shows 1 pipe only the throttle body one. Is the compressor outlet pipe included as well
Its two pipes joined by coupler.

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      08-06-2014, 12:26 AM   #6
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The most important thing HOW MUCH
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The most important thing HOW MUCH
In the range of $300
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In the range of $300
inclusive of BMW TAX for a bmw mod! $300 for 2 pieces of pipes
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What benefits will we get if running JB4 and DP with these?
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inclusive of BMW TAX for a bmw mod! $300 for 2 pieces of pipes
oh well that's what you pay for if you want to play in range of map2 & 7 safely, but you have to contact them to be certain of price.
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The price is on their website...
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I kinda agree with you. It's expensive but someone has to pay the price of development. Other companies will release their product on the market and she should see a price drop.
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what about the other plastic charge air pipe from the turbo outlet to intercooler input? Seems a bit silly to upgrade one of them but not the other...
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what about the other plastic charge air pipe from the turbo outlet to intercooler input? Seems a bit silly to upgrade one of them but not the other...
Thats what i asked lol but all i got was a shit answer from a clueless vendor
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Its two pipes joined by coupler.

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also, has anyone actually heard of any real world cases of the charge pipe failing on the N20??
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what about the other plastic charge air pipe from the turbo outlet to intercooler input? Seems a bit silly to upgrade one of them but not the other...
Probably cause that hardly fails?

Most, if not all cases i have heard is the charge pipe failing... in some other cars, this is known as the turbo inlet hose...
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Probably cause that hardly fails?

Most, if not all cases i have heard is the charge pipe failing... in some other cars, this is known as the turbo inlet hose...
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=932876

Haven't heard of it failing on the N20s yet... but mind you the N20 are pushing higher boost then the n55....

2 of my mates have theirs changed out during the introductory offer (like 4 months back before the official launch).

I just got mine ordered and it has arrived in my post office today!!
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Thats what i asked lol but all i got was a shit answer from a clueless vendor
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Well, your question wasn't clear tbh... I thought you were asking if it was 2 pipes instead of 1, which was the case... and not if there are 2 sets of pipes, one for the inlet side and one of the out...

AFAIK, there has been no failure on the other side....

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=932876

and btw, you know who mike is??? definitely not some clueless vendor....
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also, has anyone actually heard of any real world cases of the charge pipe failing on the N20??

Maybe not on the N20 yet but have on many occasions on the N54 and N55. I would buy it just for the coolness factory to try to dress up the engine bay since it is very plain.
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Probably cause that hardly fails?

Most, if not all cases i have heard is the charge pipe failing... in some other cars, this is known as the turbo inlet hose...
Ugh... I'm not talking about the turbo inlet!!

There are 2 charge pipes on the N20. The first is from the turbo OUTLET to the intercooler and the second is from the intercooler outlet to the throttle body.

The ER charge pipe only replaces the second pipe (from intercooler to the throttle body). The first charge pipe is under the exact same amount of pressure as the second, so it doesn't make any sense to me on why you would change one and not the other.
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Probably because the pipe from the turbo to the intercooler is made of thick rubber to withstand the heat from the turbo. It's also a pretty straight hose so there probably isn't much to gain since it can't really be any thicker in diameter than it already is.

Now the pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body is made of some sort of molded/glued plastic material. It has bends and seams which are prone to fail over time with heat cycle expansion and contraction plus additional boost pressure.
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